I think he meant that a team like Salford don't deserve anything for getting hammered but it gives teams an incentive to dig in, keeping a game close to the end. Wakey for example deserved more than Salford but both have nothing. But I guess it comes down to whether you fundamentally agree with bonus points or not?

Thought Rodd Studd's commentary was good for the 1st game. Much much better than Ben Proh(spelling)

The Eddie & Stevo show is well past it's sell by date. There good cop bad cop act is more suitable for a slot on Talk $h1te

Yayy about time Eddie and Stevo were broken up, I cant bear to listen to their drivel, and i really dont know many that think Stevo adds anything at all to the insight into the sport, a bit like Ray French, they talk about a game thats changed since they played and while you cannot question what great players they were, someone else deserves a chance, Bill, Barrie, Brian, Terry, Phil and co do quite well without them, although Eddie could maybe hold onto a position away from commentary.

I have to say I'm not too impressed with Bill Arthur. He seems to sutter and stumble through his commentaries, and seems to be stuck for things to say in post match analysis on the Championship programmes. As for Stevo, he does make the game sound exciting, but he's as thick as the proverbial pig plop. One example was yesterday's match, Harlequins v Hull. Score 19 - 4 to quins with not much time left. Quins penalty. Stevo just coulldn't understand why quins ran it. If they would have taken the 2, the gap would still be 3 scores, Hull would have done a short re-start and could have got quins with a sucker punch. But Stevo just didn't get it And he also does my head in when he refuses to admit he's ever wrong, even when he's obviously wrong!

Also it annoyed me when during commentary of the Leeds - v Wakey match, Leeds were hardly ever referred to simply as "Leeds". It was always "The Champions". "Wakefield are trying to break down the Champions". "The Champions are now on attack". "The Champions are getting back into it". Is this new SL speak from now on?

in my opinion Bill Arthur's commentary fails to get the balance right between interesting comments and factual ones

Roy Studd as a lead commentator was good. With Carney/Eddie as back up and Cullen for analysis would be good. Stevo tries too hard to be controversial and O'conner is cr@p as well as widnes biased. Barry Mac has to keep some role as he is a really funny bloke!

Did you know Clive Tyldsley used to commentate on the North West RL programmes in the 80s/early 90s.

Martin Tyler and John Helm both commentated on Scrumdown as well.

Having grown with Ray French and his M62 references cementing the flat cap image of RL for years I think we should be thankful for Eddie and Stevo AND Bill Arthur to be honest

Perhaps if you had listened to PC’s reply to Eddie’s inability to comprehend the reason for the bonus point, you would have understood what PC meant. Sometimes when a team is beaten they just accept it and fold, with nowt left to play for. Players may see getting to within 12 points as achievable, and fight until the end for that. Thus avoiding embarrassing and woeful games like the Warrington v Salford game, on which they were commenting.

I’m not a big fan of the bonus point, but it should be introduced across the board or scrapped completely imo.

I'm with you on this. It seems that the Championship Leagues have been used for this experiment for too long without any resultant opinion being voiced as to its success or failure. Or, is it just that the SL clubs have said no chance, end of?

Possibly.

And, if that is the case, that should be the end of it in the Championship too.

After all, it has been said many a time; "the bonus point is a reward for failure no matter how you dress it up".

There are arguments and counter arguments. It certainly plays a huge part in the position of clubs in the league.

Being Devil’s advocate Here:

The clubs which consistently push to stay in touch with the opposition and make an exciting spectacle of their games, even when they lose, get something out of it. Sheffield was a good side last season and run a lot of sides very close. They earned themselves a play-off place against Fev, which they may not have achieved without the bonus point. I can’t say that they didn’t deserve to be there.

If you’re a crap side you probably won’t get a bonus point anyway.

My problem is that, even though I find the system hard to accept, I would accept it if it was introduced throughout the game after a short period trialed in the Championship. One rule for one part of the same sport and a different rule for another is totally unacceptable imo. It’s either deemed to have succeeded or failed. If it has succeeded, then it should be introduced into SL. If they don’t want it then it should be scrapped. I don’t have a problem with keeping it, but RL is supposed to be the same sport, which should be run under the same rules.