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I think the club should pay the rent as this just fuels the Town fans and is not good publicity for the club at all.
But Calderdale Council cannot justify charging one of the Shay's tenants more than the other. especially when Town play more games at the Shay than the rugby.

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From what I was told earlier today. This really is a non story. People that think the club are behind with the rent don't know that facts. I'm not going to get into all of them on here. But the club isn't behind with but it is in a dispute with the council over money owed to the club over the last 3/4 years and are currently been advised by solicitor and the rfl. The football club work fromthe old offices at the corner of the south stand and all sell club merchandise from their, despite the fact they don't have a license to sell any merchandise from the shay as that is part of their rent agreement and part of the reason it's lower than the rugby clubs.

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Quote: Faxtastic123 "they don't have a license to sell any merchandise from the shay as that is part of their rent agreement'"


But they do.
They open up the floor space next door to the Fax shop and sell from in there on match days.
They just keep it looking like a building site so it's not finished.

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Not wanting to get embroiled in this again but if Town don't want to rent space for merchandising then surely they should not be allowed to run a pop-up stall in pedestrian walkways to flog their wares. Is this not a health and safety issue let alone extracting the urine from their tenancy agreement.

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Pity the two clubs didn't work closer together and shared the facilities to halve the costs-the shop for example could sell for both clubs -open more and have half the staff/overhead costs. The stadium's main asset is the pitch -that's reason for it being there and how Town and Fax make their living- by playing. If we are using it less than the football then why are we paying more rent?That would seem to be the crux of the matter to me and why the club are in dispute.

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Quote: Faxtastic123 "From what I was told earlier today. This really is a non story. People that think the club are behind with the rent don't know that facts. I'm not going to get into all of them on here. But the club isn't behind with but it is in a dispute with the council over money owed to the club over the last 3/4 years and are currently been advised by solicitor and the rfl. The football club work fromthe old offices at the corner of the south stand and all sell club merchandise from their, despite the fact they don't have a license to sell any merchandise from the shay as that is part of their rent agreement and part of the reason it's lower than the rugby clubs.'"



They should get health and safety in to inspect Town's offices.

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The usual poo stirring from the Pubteam lot. This issue has been going on for years. IF it was such a huge issue as the Pubteam/Courier are making out, then I very much doubt we would be able to use The Shay. As per normal, its just the jealous pubteam lot looking to cause problems at the start of the Rugby season and dont like it that we have sponsors/people prepared to help us with a electronic scoreboard-one that was promised by the Council by the way. They do not like it that our players trained in Portugal. Just ignore the trolls.
The fact is, the Pubteam use The Shay, far more than we do and use just as much facilities and utilities as us, if not more. As usual, FC Pubteam are trying to cut corners and not pay for things. If they choose not to have a proper shop and run a jumble sale service, thats not the Councils problem. Each club should pay the same and if they choose not to use certain facilities, then that is the problem of the club. Maybe if the Pubteam lot did not cry so much the pitch would be dry and would not need so much work doing on the drainage.

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Quote: Living The Dream "Pity the two clubs didn't work closer together and shared the facilities to halve the costs-the shop for example could sell for both clubs -open more and have half the staff/overhead costs. The stadium's main asset is the pitch -that's reason for it being there and how Town and Fax make their living- by playing. If we are using it less than the football then why are we paying more rent?That would seem to be the crux of the matter to me and why the club are in dispute.'"


As I have said on a few occasions before, when Malcolm ran the club shop he offered (very kindly) to stock Towns merchandise and sell it on their behalf. No proceeds going to Fax or cost to Town. They refused.
That I think sums up just one of their many complexes.

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Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "The usual poo stirring from the Pubteam lot. This issue has been going on for years. IF it was such a huge issue as the Pubteam/Courier are making out, then I very much doubt we would be able to use The Shay. As per normal, its just the jealous pubteam lot looking to cause problems at the start of the Rugby season and dont like it that we have sponsors/people prepared to help us with a electronic scoreboard-one that was promised by the Council by the way. They do not like it that our players trained in Portugal. Just ignore the trolls.
The fact is, the Pubteam use The Shay, far more than we do and use just as much facilities and utilities as us, if not more. As usual, FC Pubteam are trying to cut corners and not pay for things. If they choose not to have a proper shop and run a jumble sale service, thats not the Councils problem. Each club should pay the same and if they choose not to use certain facilities, then that is the problem of the club. Maybe if the Pubteam lot did not cry so much the pitch would be dry and would not need so much work doing on the drainage.'"


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Quote: dazednconfused "But they do.
They open up the floor space next door to the Fax shop and sell from in there on match days.
They just keep it looking like a building site so it's not finished.'"


The prime site next to the Club shop should be cleared out and let by the Stadium to some organisation that would make the place look more respectable . It looks like a bomb site and as it`s the front of the bulding drags the whole look of the stadium down as it now appears to be a dumping ground . It has slowly got worse as it has waited for Halifax Town to decide wether or not to take up the option of whether they are to move in there , leaving the stadium with not just one eye sore ( the cabin across that are still used as offices and the prime front spot of the stadium ) On a matchday they open it up and create what in there words is a " pop up shop " which consist of half a dozen large boxes which they sell out of .It can`t be against their lease otherwise the Stadium Manager and employees wouldn`t walk past without batting an eyelid .
As Halifaxjohn has said Malcom offered on more than one occasion to sell Towns wares but they declined .

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Quote: johnny freeman fan club "The prime site next to the Club shop should be cleared out and let by the Stadium to some organisation that would make the place look more respectable . It looks like a bomb site and as it`s the front of the bulding drags the whole look of the stadium down as it now appears to be a dumping ground . It has slowly got worse as it has waited for Halifax Town to decide wether or not to take up the option of whether they are to move in there , leaving the stadium with not just one eye sore ( the cabin across that are still used as offices and the prime front spot of the stadium ) On a matchday they open it up and create what in there words is a " pop up shop " which consist of half a dozen large boxes which they sell out of .It can`t be against their lease otherwise the Stadium Manager and employees wouldn`t walk past without batting an eyelid .
As Halifaxjohn has said Malcom offered on more than one occasion to sell Towns wares but they declined .'"


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Quote: Living The Dream "Pity the two clubs didn't work closer together and shared the facilities to halve the costs-the shop for example could sell for both clubs -open more and have half the staff/overhead costs.'"


If I remember correctly both clubs were more than willing to have a shared shop/office facility and thats what the East Stand design was based on. Then HTAFC went bust, in came the new chaps and they were against the sensible idea of the two clubs working together on a shared facility.

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That sounds about right given the Town directors will not even interact with any official from the rugby and that started long before all the stadium row kicked off. Too up their own backsides by the sounds of it. I would imagine it will be a while before there is change though as it must be a cushy number with all those undisclosed fees.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "That sounds about right given the Town directors will not even interact with any official from the rugby and that started long before all the stadium row kicked off. Too up their own backsides by the sounds of it.'"


They struggle to interact with the supporters nevermind Fax officials. I do think things would be greatly different if the two clubs could/would work together and do appreciate that its more than likely Mr Bosomworth and his fellow out of towners where the problem lies.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "That sounds about right given the Town directors will not even interact with any official from the rugby and that started long before all the stadium row kicked off. Too up their own backsides by the sounds of it. I would imagine it will be a while before there is change though as it must be a cushy number with all those undisclosed fees.'"

Fax appointed a second tier board member whose specific task was to improve relations with the football club but never heard anything since.Craig Poskitt had a meeting with town officials and described the progress as 'baby steps' but his departure probably signalled an end to further talks.

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