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Quote: Starbug "Its called promotion and relegation'"


How does a team with a squad value of £300k build a new squad for SL in just four months to be able to avoid relegation without gambling massively against their future?

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Quote: Chris B "How does a team with a squad value of £300k build a new squad for SL in just four months to be able to avoid relegation without gambling massively against their future?'"


That's the exact scenario in other sports, and yet sometimes the club coming up does survive.

It is better to have tried and failed then never to be allowed to try.

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Quote: Chris B "How does a team with a squad value of £300k build a new squad for SL in just four months to be able to avoid relegation without gambling massively against their future?'"


So why were Fax in the mix today ?

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Quote: Starbug "So why were Fax in the mix today ?'"


That was just to make the RFL feel good about themselves.

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Quote: Chris B "without gambling massively against their future?'"

With thd RFL giving Wakefield a licence, it would appear that they would now likely encourage this behaviour and give it a few marks towards a licence if you go into admin

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Quote: billyfax "That's the exact scenario in other sports, and yet sometimes the club coming up does survive.

It is better to have tried and failed then never to be allowed to try.'"


I would say that the gulf between the divisions in this sport is considerable compared to the Championship and the Premiership for example. Also in some other sports they have parachute payments to protect the dropping club.

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Quote: Chris B "I would say that the gulf between the divisions in this sport is considerable compared to the Championship and the Premiership for example. Also in some other sports they have parachute payments to protect the dropping club.'"


So why were Fax in the mix today ?

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Quote: Starbug "So why were Fax in the mix today ?'"


What does that even mean?

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If it is all about money, presumably it is cheaper for the RFL not to promote Fax than relegate Wakefield with a 6 figure parachute payment - icon_eek.gif

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Well said Michael. One wonders how much the Clowns at Red Hall have promised Crusaders to get them out of the mire so they can re-apply next time. To allow Wakefield to stay in with their dump of a ground and going into administration just shows how far the Clowns will go to keep Fax out of SL. Re parachute payment how much are they going to give to Crusaders, they are allegedly 700K in the red?

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Quote: Chris B "What does that even mean?'"


You asked this question

Quote: Chris B "How does a team with a squad value of £300k build a new squad for SL in just four months to be able to avoid relegation without gambling massively against their future? '"


Well the RFL were happy for Fax to be in the mix today , and it is quite concievable that they could have got a SL place for next season , only giving them a short amount of time to prepare , if that amount of time is enough , why did they give Widnes more time ?

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Quote: burybabe "Well said Michael. One wonders how much the Clowns at Red Hall have promised Crusaders to get them out of the mire so they can re-apply next time. To allow Wakefield to stay in with their dump of a ground and going into administration just shows how far the Clowns will go to keep Fax out of SL. Re parachute payment how much are they going to give to Crusaders, they are allegedly 700K in the red?'"


i would imagine it will be about £700k - don't you?

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Quote: Starbug "You asked this question

Well the RFL were happy for Fax to be in the mix today , and it is quite concievable that they could have got a SL place for next season , only giving them a short amount of time to prepare , if that amount of time is enough , why did they give Widnes more time ?'"


Because Fax would not be under pressure to be competitive in year one, they would potentially have 2 - 3 years with the benefit of receiving SKY money over this period and increased sponsorship. It's not an all or nothing next year scenario.

Fax still would have found out before the deadline of being able to approach OOC 2012 players at the beginning of September and a good 3 months before they would if it had been left to winning the GF.

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"What we will do is we'll sit down with Halifax and we'll explain what the weaknesses were in their application and what was found wanting and where other clubs put in a stronger case."
love off you pillock don't even bother coming and sitting down your not welcome!! this is a load of political bolox. Wakefield don't have a stronger bid and you all know it

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Loving the hypocrisy of some.:



Quote: ste_ody "it's not just Halifax who need to stand up to the RFL, every single championship side should stand together'"


Agreed and all RL supporters - or at least those who care.

None of the clubs have anything to lose anymore.

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