I do not trust the RFL, Wood or the SL lot. I will be pleasantly surprised if anybody other than Widnes go up. I think us being the best team over the last 3 years and having Probiz on board as well as a SL Stadium (If not quite finished!) puts likely in second place over Barrow. However I doubt the RFL or SL Clubs care about Fax or Barrow. They only care about themselves and what money they can make.

Its up to each one of us to promote Fax to our friends and family. True Fax have to promote themselves and also put offers our way. However we also have to drag and encourage our friends and family to get down to the shay. The more people that watch us the better. 10 pound for sunday is a fantastic offer. Lets get as many people down there.

Probiz certainly have been doing nothing but promote us and for me have Fax have already got their moneys worth from the deal. Plenty of promotion and mentioning of Fax and maybe Probiz is the key to us ever being in SL under the present stupid system. I think Fax could grow massively if allowed to compete in SL.

Well done Probiz, Fax and the Courier on the promoting and pushing Fax for SL. Dont try you do not get. Lets now all get behind and support the talk.

I hope your right, you cant blame anyone for being cynical and prepared for the worst, i did wonder when they sponsored both us and cas whether he was hedging his bets, whether he knew something that wasnt public knowledge yet, im hoping hes very astute and has some good intel on the game..

The problems Wakey are facing are an effect of the ridiculous franchise system. They have obviously overspent trying to avoid falling through the trapdoor by ticking (falsly) as many boxes as possible.

But, any potential Wakey loss is hopefully Fax's gain. Fingers crossed.

AFAIK Probiz sponsored Fax first and then sponsored Cas when their original sponsorship deal for 2011 fell through. It was going to be Metrel an electronics company.

That can't be true. P&R bankrupts clubs, not franchising. Franchising brings security. Franchising brings top quality young English players to the fore. There's no room for failing clubs in SL. That's why Wakefield, Crusaders and Harlequins are basking in the safe haven of the franchised and why we are down here amongst the dis-enfranchised. Sounds like a suffragette scenario. I'm going to burn my bra outside Red Hall.

I always knew there was something strange about you

I read somewhere it was more prevalent in Yorkshire

Thats why clubs like Hull KR have 10 overseas players by one means or another. At least David Brook was open about it in the 70's

While the problems aren't IMO an effect of the Franchise system , what it has done is polarized those problems because instead of a chance to rebuild and return with clear targets , they and we know the odds on them getting back up to SL are very slim

Yes we should all run a perfect business , but this is sport , so it's nothing to do with business

3500 average in a new stadium? Serious it is a Man Utd area and it wont take off.Maybe first year higher attendances, then will go back to normality.Anyway if not Salford why not swap with Castleford?