2 stand out players in a struggling York team

Another Holroyd by the sounds of it. Playing in a dinner jacket.

Honestly! Some of the posts on here are unbelievable, please give the lads a chance! Quality signings with more to come!

I dont think it will be easy with Leigh and Batley looking to improve. We will probably make the top 4 but I think we should be making the top 2 but we will have to make a significant improvement imo for that to happen. Season is way off though.

Welcome to the club of the year Simon and Ben!

Have a great season, don't worry, we're not all like GFB!

I always remember thumping A Gary Thornton coached Batley 72-4 or something. He left that week and I remember seeing batley fans saying they feared the worst and talking of no way back, they won the NRC the following season and look at them now! Was very surprised he managed to get another head coaches job.

We have a good pack, it leaves a good platform for these players to work on. Let's see what they can do!

Welcome onboard lads, come on lets give the guys a chance, I seem to recall York pushed us back well with a good kicking game in two tight matches against them so was that this guy?

and how well did he get fax moving? put people through the gaps.

It's a few years since he got his Olympic medals taken off him now isn't it ?

Don't know much about Ben Johnston but can remember Simon Brown having a stormer against us at Bramall Lane a ccouple of years ago. Here's hoping.

You mean a pretty good judge of players?

Nothing would please me more than players proving me wrong and us finishing in the top 2 next season.

Negative opinions never go down well on this board but I dont think people should be afraid to give them because of fear of any backlash. I will always speak my mind, one look at my posts over the years will tell you that but for every negative post you will also find a positive post saying the team played well or the club did this well.

Again this is only my opinion, some will share it and some wont, but even a few games in to the season it was clear where our problems lay. I gave my opinion on that before the season started and was shot down been told how good young Ashall and Holden were and how we would be a better team without Penky. Been proved right on that one didnt please me because it meant that come the end of the season we didnt get to go to one final.

It were obvious and everyone knew it so the coaching staff should have been doing what they could to make sure we were set with a 6/7/9 of top quality from a very early stage in the season. This may have gone on who knows, obviously we were restricted on that because of the clubs refusal to bring in loan players or foreign players so the best available could be missed anyway.

Finn and Ridyard were obviously first choices but to me it almost seems as though as soon as the deal for Finn broke down we were forced in to a panic buy in Brown. I just cant see there not been a better player available somewhere who a SL team would not be willing to release on a season long loan or an Aussie who would be willing to come over here for a chance.

For me we have the best pack in the league and not a bad set of backs(obviously short of any confidence as every bit of flair is coached out of them) but with a good hooker and half back pairing this season Im pretty sure we would have won the league. Those are the only positions we need big improvement in and obviously that is what KH is trying to do but it does not fill me with confidence when a coach says he wants about 6 or 7 options for 3 positions because that tells me he didnt get the players he wanted and he is hoping to get lucky. I mean if we signed say Finn, Ellis and a quality scrum half then he wouldnt say he wanted those options would he?

I did forget to mention that Johnston was rated as better than Ryan Brierley for quite some time and Cas kept him while letting Brierley move.

Its only fair to add that I dont rate Brierley though.

KH needs to realise that chopping and changing the team every two games does not work.

Nail on the head. We need a more settled team - whoever we sign.

Matters not, you're crap