There adapting to the quality of our play Rich, very shrewed tactics from the trolling coach if you ask me.

Just be patient, give us a couple of days and some of our significant signings are announced and we will be back to ripping up the league again next season.

Any part of our expectations that actully come to reality will just be a coincidence.

I think the comparisons with Calland's sides are unfair. To start with, to play running & supporting RL you have to be fit, for me, that's where the comparison ends. At least Calland's lot looked fit this lot haven't most of the season.

To attack the assistant coach on here I find a bit embarrassing, I think Lee G is a very good coach but i'm sure many of our posters have watched his work & are more capable than me to make that judgement. So, we bring in another *attacking* ( sigh ) coach and he has big idea's but the HEAD-COACH over rules him, where do we go from there ?

I have no problem batting off beamers when we lose. I have no problem in engaging with like minded RL fans and the banter. Perhaps it's a bit too optimistic to expect a certain degree of class and knowledge from the trollers. I can do early learning conversation if that's what's required. Here goes....

Yer, we woz crap last nite. We chooked and neffer luked like livin up to our cocky attitudez. get uzed to it faxs cos youll neffer win owt agin.



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Think Fax have looked unfit and often mentally weak all season. Sam Barlow is one example. This year looked unfit and uninterested. Moves to Fev and is different player.

I think you cant just look at one person but the whole coaching team. Lee Greenwood could be the best coach ever but if Rhino ignores him then he is useless. Maybe Lee is a top coach who struggles to get his plans over to the players and Karl. He wont be the first or last that has happened too. Maybe Karl is too stubborn to see whats going on and thinks he knows best. Is Nigel Halmshaw really getting the players fit or is it the players are just lazy and cutting corners or could it be the way Karl has organized things? I would hope the Board has a review of the whole coaching setup and has a look at why we once again have under achieved. Because another season like the last couple will see crowds drop and less money coming in again

The board really do need to sit down and look at the positives and negatives from this season, the problem is it'll be a very one-sided meeting because I really am struggling to see the positives.
Players promoted from u21's - Holden and that's about it.
Crowd - going down and not looking like turning that around.
Style of play - boring as.
Ideas - Not many.

Hang on - Price of booze dropped, think we all need a drink so that's a positive.

I'd like to say roll on next season but if you look back we were all saying that this time last year and nothing has improved.

No point spending anymore money with this coaching set up, phone up Dunneman now, he might even be able to play half back as well.

Some good points here, I posted earlier in the season regarding our playing style. Playing attractive, effective rugby is not difficult, it's all about having multiple options available to the player with the ball. There is nothing wrong with a drop off at even the highest level of the game, as long as it is performed as one of three or four options in the play. For instance if you run a drop off say from first receiver, as a stand alone move, the defensive line has basically two options to defend against, the player dropping under or the player with the ball who may dummy and go himself. This is very easy to defend against especially if you do it over and over again, which Fax seem to do. If you run the same drop off but this time have two extra runners pushing up out side the drop off runner all of a sudden defending becomes much harder as there are now double the options on the table. This causes defences to think twice about shooting in and can also allow you to get the ball wider much easier. You could run this play everytime and as long as you keep changing who you give the ball to it still wouldn't be predictable. Fax just don't seem to have any push in support which is why we can end up watching one man rugby quite often. Of course it helps if you have the players who can do this, Shad Royston was a great example of this, very intelligent without the ball always pushing in support and running great lines and always giving the defensive line food for thought. We just don't seem to have anyone like that at the moment, whether that is down to the coaching, the fitness of the players, or the skill level of the players I have no idea, maybe a combination of all three, hard to tell from the outside looking in!

JOHN you are confused , it was Eric Morecambe , who said it not Les Dawson Charlie knows .

Littlerich KNOWS .

I think the problem is there not as fit as fev and Sheff, stands out like a sore thumb to me in the games Rovers have played against you. You looked great for 60 mins at fev, but faded away badly after that and did the same last night. Get a new conditioner and youl not be far away

Well I suggest you look at the results on the fax site for this season as just as many games were close as were the ones we smashed them in against so called lower opposition could have gone either way at the end and ended up being close affairs.

Draw with Doncaster.
Lost to Barrow.
Scraped through against York at home.
Hunslet away was close.
York away was close.
Workington away was close.

You're right - I take your point - but other top clubs had similar results against the lower clubs too. What we haven't done is punch through at the other top clubs. We've struggled particularly against Fev and Sheffield. We LOOK miles away from them both in fitness and style of play. They looked so enthusiastic last night and that's having played on Sunday!! The skill level of both these clubs is beyond us also.

I agree, other top clubs did also lose against lower opposition, you are right. However the other top clubs also picked up points against the other top clubs too, we didn't, our 1 league win was against Sheffield at home first game after they had not had any warm up games, and even then 5 minutes longer they would have beaten us.

From the start of the season we have never looked like competing against them.

I actually said a few weeks ago I think we have 1 big game left in us but not 2 back to back ones. Law of averages say that every team must play really well at some point and we haven't clicked for months now so it was overdue, we played well at Sheffield 2 weeks ago. I doubted we could repeat that and yesterday was back to normality. There backs tore us a new one time after time and our fastest player was sat in the stands watching.

Oh and yes fitness wise I agree, sorry some players wont like it but we have halfbacks who look like 2nd rowers, infact that's not true as players like manning are fit. I cant understand this, your a professional sportsman so look after yourself better, that extra stone your carrying means the difference between getting to make that tackle or not.