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Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "Its up to supporters is it? Who badly mismanaged a 700k windfall? Who vexed off the council to the point they raised the rent?

Getting sick and tired of supporters been blamed for not turning up to the clown show that is this club. Marshall got the team working for a year and the club was given a perfect opportunity to build. Somehow in the space of 12 months our board managed to blow it all and have to cut costs to a level clearly worse that we were before 2015. Yet what do they do? Turn around and blame the fans for not turning up. It will be embarrassing to watch what Batley do with their increased funding, and it will be a third of what we got.'"

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Quote: TheButcher "I suppose the success of duel registration is down to how it's applied by coaches. If done sensibly, there's no reason why young lads on the fringes of the Fax side should feel left out. Of course, it could always go the other way. While we are only running a first team we have quite a few youngsters knocking on the door of the first team, all of which will want to prove a point. Some of them got SL game time last season and they are all a pretty talented bunch.

There's no reason why it can't work for both clubs, but it will rely on Marshall and Watson to manage it correctly.'"


I don't think the view Marshall expressed on DR less than a year ago bodes well.....

[i“Using dual-reg can destabilise your squad. If I were to go and get dual-registered players, what does that say to my lads in the reserve grade? It basically says you aren’t good enough to play first-team and I’m going to find somebody else."[/i

But no doubt he now thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread a046.gif

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Why don't we see what happens. The team has hardly changed over the last few years .We all might be pleasantly surprised. Their were a few games last season where it clicked eg Summer Bash against Fev the wins against the bulls. Lets have some faith and get behind the club.

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Quote: Uptonfax "Why don't we see what happens. The team has hardly changed over the last few years .We all might be pleasantly surprised. Their were a few games last season where it clicked eg Summer Bash against Fev the wins against the bulls. Lets have some faith and get behind the club.'"

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Quote: HXSparky "Can you provide a link to the Fax Director's quote, please?'"

It's not there now-removed ?
was a copy/paste i posted didn't doctor it in any way.

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Seriously, I don't know why you think you can rely on Salford in an injury crisis.

They're not running any other teams so they'll probably be in the same position as you.

You'll be turning up with 12 players like York.

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Quote: mr t hall "It's not there now-removed ?
was a copy/paste i posted didn't doctor it in any way.'"


It just seems a strange thing for a director of the club to say. It's often said that the crowd can be the 18th man, but it's the other 17 that have to perform first to get everyone motivated. It just doesn't happen the other way round!

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Quote: Uptonfax "Why don't we see what happens. The team has hardly changed over the last few years .We all might be pleasantly surprised. Their were a few games last season where it clicked eg Summer Bash against Fev the wins against the bulls. Lets have some faith and get behind the club.'"



And this is the problem, we have stood still for two years while other teams have improved. Last year's signings were pretty much a waist of time and money.
We haven't improved again this year. Loosing Manning is a huge blow.
All I can see for this year is a very long and hard season ahead.Hope I'm wrong.

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Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "Its up to supporters is it? Who badly mismanaged a 700k windfall? Who vexed off the council to the point they raised the rent?

Getting sick and tired of supporters been blamed for not turning up to the clown show that is this club. Marshall got the team working for a year and the club was given a perfect opportunity to build. Somehow in the space of 12 months our board managed to blow it all and have to cut costs to a level clearly worse that we were before 2015. Yet what do they do? Turn around and blame the fans for not turning up. It will be embarrassing to watch what Batley do with their increased funding, and it will be a third of what we got.'"

I agree the club blame ex-Directors and sponsors and also the fans for things going pear shaped, alienating many who will never return yet they never blame themselves and ask why things went wrong and sort it out, its no wonder we have gone backwards!!!
I am not a fan of DR but beggars cannot be choosers and we will struggle with the squad we have over the full season we need back up and if you look at Fev they used DR to their advantage by getting Leeds players in last season and Wakey the year before and it worked as we all know to our cost!!!
I prefer a loan system myself but we have to play with the cards that we have been dealt.

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We haven't strengthened from last season. We have lost our best back rower to a rival. A positive keeping Tangata. Just surprised we haven't looked to sign 1 or 2 forwards to compensate for loss of Manning and Haggerty. We look a little short and cant rely too much on DR.

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Agree Chazzer.
We have lost a good few forwards from last year. Moore, Manning, Robinson, Bennion to mention some and even when we had them RM himself admitted that in some games our pack were out muscled.
Just fits with we are skint and will have to go with who we have, some of the younger lads and DR. Even more of a concern if we get any injuries.

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Quote: chazzerboy "We haven't strengthened from last season. We have lost our best back rower to a rival. A positive keeping Tangata. Just surprised we haven't looked to sign 1 or 2 forwards to compensate for loss of Manning and Haggerty. We look a little short and cant rely too much on DR.'"

That's the problem we are relying on DR,as it's the only perceived way.We are back to the low of 2003/4 now and that got much worse till it got better..

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Quote: Fax4Life "I agree the club blame ex-Directors and sponsors and also the fans for things going pear shaped, alienating many who will never return yet they never blame themselves and ask why things went wrong and sort it out, its no wonder we have gone backwards!!!
I am not a fan of DR but beggars cannot be choosers and we will struggle with the squad we have over the full season we need back up and if you look at Fev they used DR to their advantage by getting Leeds players in last season and Wakey the year before and it worked as we all know to our cost!!!
I prefer a loan system myself but we have to play with the cards that we have been dealt.'"


The only time the club would blame sponsors is when they either do not see out their contracts or go back on their word. Either way is poor form IMO.

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Massive over exaggeration and over reactions on both threads about DR. Yeah we look a bit light if we pick up injuries but our team still looks pretty strong.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Massive over exaggeration and over reactions on both threads about DR. Yeah we look a bit light if we pick up injuries but our team still looks pretty strong.'"



Personally think we have a very week pack. Especially in front row. Our hookers are too predictable and offer no attack, and in the backs our centres are too slow and offer nothing for the wings. We have some good individual players but as a team it doesn't look strong enough for me.

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