And tbf, your comment on the VT to the bloke who was moaning about the supposed NRL spoiler made me LOL, so you can't be all bad.

Bradford is a thorny topic on here. You have to undertsand it from the fans of a club outside the chosen few. We are told the high standards needed to get into SL and then we see Wakefield and Bradford collapse spectacularly with your club - seemingly a flagship club - dragging the game though the media mud for 9 months. After the slurry has been emptied you get handed a licence back. It proves that some clubs do NOT need to submit an application and it proves that licensing is a total and utter sham.

So when you come on here after what has happened is it any wonder that you're not slobbered over?

Not expecting to be slobbered over. Doesn't sound all that appealing tbh.

I think that we maybe have too high expectations for the sport. The fact is, given its lack of profile in the wider country and world, we will always be struggling for money, competent administrators and the ability to run competitions without the, shall we say, pragmatism that has been shown since the start of SL in terms of who has come up and who hasn't.

Any time I get any insight into what is going on behind the scenes in RL, two words pop into my head - "Phoenix Nights". Well-meaning incompetents, pompous at times but with their hearts in the right place trying to keep the ship afloat in the squall. No one is in it for the brass, because there isn't any. If the game does survive the threat posed by soccer, RU and the NRL's big bucks, we'll have done well considering.

I don't have expectations where rugby league is concerned anymore.
The game has been ruined for so many reasons I just haven't the energy to write them all down again.
Unfortunately for Bradford fans their club had a grade B license awarded by the RFL only for it to be revealed soon after that they had no money with the RFL not knowing what to do.
After weeks of bad press for the game it has ended up with a rule change or whatever you call it under the term "provisional liecense" which never existed before.
This follows statements that Bradford were too big a club to allow to go bust, where in the licensing system or agreement is this part included.
If other clubs end up in the same posistion who don't have this same pretigious name like Bradford what will happen to them.
It's just a farce, the game has been made a farce, existing structure and rules mean nothing.
The licensing system and the criteria set within it mean nothing.
The RFL just change this to suit as and when they like.
The "Bradford Situation" is what has made this happen.
No one club should be bigger than the game but the game has been changed and affected by one club and how the RFL have dealt with them.
I'm sick of it and I'm sick of them.

The core reason is that people will pack out Twickenham, seats and crucially corporate boxes in a manner we can't remotely match. Furthermore they and soccer had their games taken around the world by the public schoolboys who ran the empire. However large a figure Nigel Wood now appears, he really is only of minor importance compared to these salient facts.

(NB it's also worth noting that for all their money, soccer and RU have their own problems. The RFL has never presided over anything approaching the Hillsborough disaster to give one, horrendous example of how badly a sporting body can get things wrong)

What I find quite amazing is the discussion about next years ST prices on the Bulls board, some are still suggesting a cheap price compared to 2/3 years ago

Class. Bringing the deaths of 96 people into a debate to try and prove our sport is only as badly administrated as others!

And, if you really think the FA, who oversee the highest grossing sports league in the world, are inclusive of all member clubs, act rapidly and consistently when punishing its members and is currently overhauling how its young players are developed in a way that is not detrimental to its members or the national side, are as incompetent as the RFL then you are sadly, sadly and massively deluded

Just googled 'clueless FA'. 2.4 million results.

Hillsborough is of course an extreme example. But it is one that shows that the idea that RL is cursed with uniquely deficient leadership is not really borne out by evidence.

Maybe you should have been pointing that out to your fellow Bulls supporters this week, the whingeing about how slow the RFL have been deciding where you will play next has been hilarious

Shame google is not context sensitive!

Bulls fan in lack of context shocker!

Yeah, I looked again and most of the results were football fans praising the FA for not being clueless. Apologies.

That will teach you to read stuff first