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Quote: The Scratchin shed ghost "I can't believe the rubbish that some people will post to stir things up on the eve of potentially our best season in nearly 25 years. As I understand it anyway any rent arreas arise from the fact that the club refuses to pay more than the football club for less access.

The latest accounts show a (very) small profit. The clubs credit ratings are more of an issue because they can't raise capital investment. We are also listed as "company in trading difficulties" but so is every Super League team, most of the FA premiership and every professional sports club beyond that. Running a football or rugby club tends to be a hand to mouth existence at every level.

and as for the club having to jump up and deny everything or else it must be true - thats ridiculous. Every Tom, Dick or Bubba who makes something up then gets the prestige of a response which would see them just make up more and more s**t.

I trust our board to run the club properly, that doesn't mean that we will always be rolling in cash. I'd like to be able to trust our "fans" to concentrate on supporting the team.

On we go........'"



Great post.

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To be honest im very disappointed that there are people who continually want to bring down Halifax RLFC. Ive always wanted the football team to do well obviously because we are all from Halifax, but you get sick to the back teeth of these football fans putting the rugby down all the time. I now almost find myself wanting them to lose so i can reciprocate, which is wrong.

One thing is for sure, if the Fax didnt relocate to the Shay the football team wouldnt exist as the council would never have developed the stadium for them. It had to be a joint venture. So if there are any football fans who feel bitter towards the rugby club can i suggest that they go away and stay away from this Halifax RLFC topical forum.

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Loving the hypocrisy of some.:



Quote: faxlad66 "One thing is for sure, if the Fax didnt relocate to the Shay the football team wouldnt exist as the council would never have developed the stadium for them.'"


The lack of knowledge on here never ceases to amaze me.

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Quote: Bubba "The lack of knowledge on here never ceases to amaze me.'"


do one then ya ****

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Quote: Bubba "The lack of knowledge on here never ceases to amaze me.'"



Bubba! There is nothing wrong with being a Town fan. Your comments always suggest that you are against the Rugby team so either stop passing them to cause trouble or go back to the town site with the other 2 or 3 fans!

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Quote: Bubba "The lack of knowledge on here never ceases to amaze me.'"




I don't know how you can question his previous post it was aimed at the re-development of the stadium being for dual purpose.

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Quote: Bubba "The lack of knowledge on here never ceases to amaze me.'"


Do you seriously believe that Calderdale Council would have committed 4.5 million to the Shay if only Halifax Town played there bearing in mind that, at the time, the football club were in serious danger of going out of business permanently? This is not a dig at the football club because it would have been exactly the same if the clubs' positions had been reversed.

To quote a poster on your forum:

"What I do give a toss about is that they sold their ground for millions, agreed to use that money to help fund the redevelopment of The Shay, failed to put in a penny which contributed to HTAFC's insolvency and then told the Council in the summer of 2008 that Fax are 'ready to take over the complete running of The Shay'."

How many total fallacies can he get into three and a bit lines?

1. If I remember correctly, Halifax RLFC's share from the sale of Thrum Hall was well under a million (600,000 springs to mind but I wouldn't swear to it) when it had been split between the cricket and bowling clubs as well. This was then swallowed up by the Inland Revenue.

2. As I understand it, the South Stand Lounge was kitted out by Halifax RLFC.

3. How much have Halifax Town put into the stadium in recent years other than from available grants?

3. How the hell did Halifax RLFC contribute in any way to Halifax Town's insolvency?

4. Fax did not say "who needs Halifax Town, we can run the stadium alone" as your fans like to infer. At a time when it looked as if the football club were going out of business the rugby club simply moved to assure it's worried fans that their business plan was robust enough to be able to run the stadium alone IF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. What would you expect them to say? "If Halifax Town go bust we're up s**t creek"?

It really is about time that the more moronic FCHT supporters got some therapy for their paranoia before it consumes them entirely.

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Agreed, I have no interest in the football team due to what i read on here, seems they make a rod for their own back. It really is quite sad and I echo the word used "Paranoia".

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Quote: Waddy-Fax "Agreed, I have no interest in the football team due to what i read on here, seems they make a rod for their own back. It really is quite sad and I echo the word used "Paranoia".'"


Blubba does nothing to dispel the Paranoia.

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Quote: Bubba "Ermmm because I follow Fax.'"


If you follow fax why are you behind a plot trying to expose HRLFC's exposure to the CMBC for un-paid rent?

Its been made clear that such rumours can only effect the confidence of future creditors and sponsors, but you and your fellow FC town supporters are clearly on some crusade to achieve something, that something being of no value to both clubs.
Or am I missing something here, like the public have a right to know, cos I am sure they really give a as the monies will be so insignificant to effect anything!

But this is all ok cos your a fax fan eusa_wall.gif

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Here's a hypothetical scenario for you

"Team A" and "Team B" play in a rented stadium

"Team A" pays let's say £40,000 rent per year and "Team B" pays £40,000 rent per year.

Now "Team A" goes bust and Reforms as "A Team" and "Team B" is still unchanged.

"A Team" goes to the management of the Stadium and says we can't pay the old rent, we're in a lower league and can't afford the rent as incomes will drop. So can we pay less.

"A Team" starts new season and much to the suprise of everyone charges £18 entrance fee as before to watch small town clubs play at the stadium. "Team B" gets miffed as "A Team" is charging more then "Team B" and paying less and now feels aggrieved.

"Team B" approaches stadium management and says, well if "A Team" can pay less with less overheads and higher per spectator income than us, why can't we pay the same and withholds payment until a settlement is reached with stadium management.

Now I'm not saying that this is the case in point but there may be a little truth in it!!! Should this be the case then it has no bearing on "A Team" and is between stadium management and "Team B". icon_wink.gif


I'm just glad I follow rugby and not the prima donna's of football. Where fans can mingle and apart from a few cases across the whole sport have a good day out without worry for their lives or their kids lives.

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So have the Shaymen now signed Mr T?
"I ain't gettin' on no plane"

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Quote: dazednconfused "So have the Shaymen now signed Mr T?
"I ain't gettin' on no plane"'"


Lol, I guess I should have put the two clubs the other way round. Didn't fancy changing it after writing the whole thing out. icon_biggrin.gif

Although it would have had cries of protestations at being called "B Team" which would have been to close to home. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: slayerfest "Here's a hypothetical scenario for you

"Team A" and "Team B" play in a rented stadium

"Team A" pays let's say £40,000 rent per year and "Team B" pays £40,000 rent per year.

Now "Team A" goes bust and Reforms as "A Team" and "Team B" is still unchanged.

"A Team" goes to the management of the Stadium and says we can't pay the old rent, we're in a lower league and can't afford the rent as incomes will drop. So can we pay less.

"A Team" starts new season and much to the suprise of everyone charges £18 entrance fee as before to watch small town clubs play at the stadium. "Team B" gets miffed as "A Team" is charging more then "Team B" and paying less and now feels aggrieved.

"Team B" approaches stadium management and says, well if "A Team" can pay less with less overheads and higher per spectator income than us, why can't we pay the same and withholds payment until a settlement is reached with stadium management.

Now I'm not saying that this is the case in point but there may be a little truth in it!!! Should this be the case then it has no bearing on "A Team" and is between stadium management and "Team B".
Here's another scenario;

NOBODY gives a flying f c u k about Team A & B's rent predicament!
Thats for the clubs directors and CMBC to lose sleep over.

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YOU CAN LEARN FROM THE PAST BUT NOT RELIVE IT.YOU CAN HOPE FOR THE FUTURE BUT CAN NEVER BE SURE THERE WILL BE ONE.:



I see where your coming from here especialy as team A plays nearly 3 times more on the ground than team B so therefore enabling them to draw the income.Wheras team B when dropping down from the top tier carried on paying the same rent.One would need to question who was responsible for this.

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