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Its also worth pointing out that Celtic and Quins fans aren't used to paying to watch their team or travelling...
Im sure the RFL would have given away free tickets for anyone that new what a rugby ball looked like if they could have.
I bet Siddal would have taken more to Catalan than Celtic or Quins could manage...
This age of jokers running RFL will not stand well in the History books.
At least they play RL in the south of France and love it, kick out the Welsh and Londoners.... population 10 million v people interested in RL 10(willing to pay to watch)

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Quote: Huddshay "I would say the crowd was around 1,400 with maybe 350/400 from Fax.'"

spot on.thats about what i thought.2700 LMFHO.

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Quote: justthebasicfax "Its also worth pointing out that Celtic and Quins fans aren't used to paying to watch their team or travelling...
Im sure the RFL would have given away free tickets for anyone that new what a rugby ball looked like if they could have.
I bet Siddal would have taken more to Catalan than Celtic or Quins could manage...
This age of jokers running RFL will not stand well in the History books.
At least they play RL in the south of France and love it, kick out the Welsh and Londoners.... population 10 million v people interested in RL 10(willing to pay to watch)'"

see.....after 13 posts you are already coming accross as an uneducated anti-expansionist pillock.
Regardless of what goes on at Celtic, Quins fans do pay to get in. Local Kids get free tickets and they generally add 200 to the gate. As for travelling fans and paying for it.....9,000 miles last year was the average for the away crew. Unlike a heartland club, where you can jump on a bus or train for 30 minutes to an away game, some Quins fans travel 50 miles + to a home game.
I do not understand the attitude of certain fans from "traditional" clubs when it comes to franchising. Yes, you follow your club and yes, you want to see the best rugby on offer, but let's face it, your last year in SL makes our crowds look like the masses led by moses icon_rolleyes.gif
I believe Widnes will get the nod next time and if there are 2 places up for grabs, you and 2lose will be in the frame, but flatearth posts like the one above do you or your club no favours in the RL community. If you don't believe me, please point out the sympathetic threads for leigh....who spat their dummy out publicly when they didn't get in and now find themselves potentially looking at an away fixture v London Skolars next year.

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Quote: gutterfax "see.....after 13 posts you are already coming accross as an uneducated anti-expansionist pillock.
Regardless of what goes on at Celtic, Quins fans do pay to get in. Local Kids get free tickets and they generally add 200 to the gate. As for travelling fans and paying for it.....9,000 miles last year was the average for the away crew. Unlike a heartland club, where you can jump on a bus or train for 30 minutes to an away game, some Quins fans travel 50 miles + to a home game.
I do not understand the attitude of certain fans from "traditional" clubs when it comes to franchising. Yes, you follow your club and yes, you want to see the best rugby on offer, but let's face it, your last year in SL makes our crowds look like the masses led by moses
Good point. Not sure we would be having this kind of debate if Fax had gotten into SL. I think the main point that JustThe BasicFax is tryin to make is that expansion for expansions sake, and at the sacrifice of heartland clubs, some of which have been in existance for over 130 years. If it was a 2 division league, with promotion and relegation and ALL clubs had the same rules then there would be no problems.

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Quote: swifty62 "crowd 2697'"
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A Level playing field is all anyone can ask, Cetic, Quins Gateshead have all been subsidised by paying fans elsewhere, dont kid yourself, Celtics and Londons attendance could never afford the houses for your imports... Stop kiddin yourself, you aint kidding anyone else
Its called marketting and politics...
Hey why dont they play aussie rules in Shorpe? i know i have an idea!

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Quote: swifty62 "crowd 2697'"


LMAO. If you believe that then i believe that i never touched a drop of alcohol all weakend. icon_lol.gif 1200 at most i would have said.

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Just done a quick scan count, and judging by average depth numbers and rows, it looks about right to be fair icon_wink.gif
I think it says more about the infamous gate 13 at RL grounds icon_wink.gif the rules arent the same as soccer, try watching the shaymen sometime and you will know what i mean...

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To be fair they didnt have much to cheer and i think the French have always had a certain, er i dont know... something icon_wink.gif

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There was more than 1300 there, with a very healthy following from Fax.

it was quite enlightening to be in the midst of a healthy RL following in the south of france - they love their catalans down there. A bar in Carcesonne had shut on the sunday as they had run a bus to perpignan for the game.

I definitely wouldnt bracket The South of France with Celtic and London - there is a strong RL base there that should be admired and applauded. We drove past a huge bilboard on the motorway for a paper L'Independant that was dedicated solely to Catalans. Ive never seen anything of the sort in the M62 area for one of our clubs - only the Bulls have got close to that.

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Quote: swifty62 "crowd 2697'"


Dont belive that for 1 second!

i was seeing double(kronenberg and vino) and there were 1600 max there,

for ne1 who went to toulouse and also watched the haven v barrow sky game on thurs, compare the crowds......both the same???!!!!
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There were people on all sides, and plenty in the bar so i would think the 1600-1700 is too conservative, like i say especially if you watch the Shaymen and see what a crowd of 1100 really looks like, i think you need to remember like i say about the RL clubs in the UK dont have the same rules, so you cant ever use an RL game over here as a yardstick, sorry about that, but its just the basic fax icon_wink.gif.... Ill count them again if you like icon_wink.gif plenty of pictures to do your own numbers too.

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Having just got back from France today i though i would update this thread. They did actually announce the crowd in the stadium. My sister who speaks fluent french said it was just over 1600. So most people were guessing right off the top of their heads.

I would say fax topped at 400 at best. The french nearly filled the two seated areas themselves and stood down one sideline by the dugouts, while fax were at one end for each half mainly or the bar.

Top game, people were nice too. We were chatting to them after the game outside. They were full of compliments for the fans and the team.

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well 2,679 is the reported figure in the papers and on the score sites icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "Whilst there have been some strange crowds announced, at the Stoop this year, we seem to be "under declaring"
As far as I understand things its like this - you only pay VAT on the money paid at the gate and NOT by the attendance, in other words you can have 1000 paying at the gate and 1000 freebies, you only pay tax on the receipted income i.e 1000 not 2000.
You can count 80% of your season ticket holders at ALL league games I believe too.
You are probably suffering from your club now declaring the TRUE gates, not the other way around.

I know that in one of our last years in SL we had a poor crowd and the RFL wanted a certain headline hitting total crowds for SL so told Fax to change the 'official' attendance to give them their magic figure.
We told them no apparently.
At the end of the day you can say what crowd you like in RL, and clubs do it all the time to make them look good.

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