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| A brawl in Tesco's over a MB post sums it up for me
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| Quote: maurice "A brawl in Tesco's over a MB post sums it up for me
Yes and it was in the ladies clothing dept.
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| Quote: mr t hall "There are positive comments on the town messageboard on occasions.As has been said many times
most supporters of both teams are supportive/tolerant of each other but a few take it too far the wrong way.
Postings on these boards can be emotive indeed two well known Town posters had a dust up in Tesco's
last week about comments made on Shaymen.net.
I know many Town fans and their reasons for their dislike isThe difference is Thrum Hall was owned by the RL Club and was not a community assett unlike the Shay.
2)Bearing in mind the above there was divided opinion about the groundshare in 1998.
Bearing in mind the above there should be no divided opinion
3)Accepting the rugby club was moving into share the Shay and bringing 1m investment
should be a good deal allround.
So if the RL club had put a million pound into the Shay with the soccer club contribution to that figure being zero but they benefit from it is okay by them.
4)The then Fax directors used the Asda money to pay their loans off and effectively moved
in for nothing.
Or they could have decided to not pay off their loans and move in with a substantial debt round their necks and we know how the Town fans think about debt.
5)There is a general perception that the rugby demand everything their way at the shay
when in reality they should be at the mercy of town/council for being there in first place.
A general perception by whom, a few zealots who are so bitter the only perception they have is corrupted towards negativity. When in fact the rugby club demand nothing but they do ask to be able to play there.
6) the pitch condition especially after the notorious waterlogged pitch game versus Wigan.
The weather is what affects the pitch as can be seen recently and if it had proper drainage in would be much better protected, the fact is at the end of the rugby season the pitch looks fantastic after a full season of RL. How many soccer games have been called of due to the condition of the pitch following a rugby match since Fax have been at the Shay.
7)the rent dispute about who should pay more.In particular the unreasonable retaining of large
sums of money for a dispute about £1400 a month that the rugby club would have signed to
pay historically anyway.'"
The rent dispute between the RL club and Calderdale that only they know the full facts about that would have to be paid anyway and has nothing to do with the soccer club and who decides what is reasonable an unreasonable few soccer fans.
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| 4.the directors at the time of the move always said they paid the money as promised and have always said so. wonder where it went.
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| Quote: halifaxjohn "A few genuine questions ,you will have seen a number of us on this forum stating our support for Town, not financially I accept but by our desire to see ALL teams from Halifax succeeded, do you ever copy those posts to you forum?
Also does any one on there ever say a food thing about Fax? And finally in your honest opinion why do you (Town Fans) hate Fax.'"
Fair questions.
No, I haven't posted positive quotes. The thread Freddy mentions was about the rent arrears so I considered it pertinent. If there had been a thread about attitudes to each other I may have done so. However, I have spoken positively on there about the attitudes of some of the posters on here, I try to keep a fair balance.
Yes, there is some positivity from some posters on the boards towards the rugby club. The board contains a wide range of opinions on most subjects.
I can't answer for other people if you want fact, but if you want my opinion then I'll give it. I think Mr T Hall sums it up well, from the things I've read. Another example I saw was the 'tunnel' issue. The football club needed a tunnel, asked the rugby club if they wanted to share the costs and the rugby club said no. Then when the football club bought it the rugby club asked to use it. I don't know if that's fact, just an example of what I've read.
It's petty and minor, but lots of petty and minor things can lead to bad blood between groups over time if they build up. It's a shame on all sides.
I also think the way the offer was made for the Shay created mistrust. Fair enough Reactiv don't have to tell people their plans, but when you want the goodwill on your side with joint tenants a lot of this could have been avoided.
Like I say, just my thoughts. I can't speak for anyone else.
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| Part quote.
" I think Mr T Hall sums it up well, from the things I've read."
Is that it then, the entire "case" against the RL club by a few Town fans?
"Another example I saw was the 'tunnel' issue.
The tunnel issue, what tunnel issue.
Town. Fancy going halves on a tunnel?
Fax. NO.
Town. Okay we'll get one ourselves.
Fax. Can we borrow your tunnel?
Town. NO.
How do you even remember such things?
"I also think the way the offer was made for the Shay created mistrust."
Not the offer that was not a real offer because it was a couple of paragraphs on an A4 piece of paper that never required deeper discussion because CMBC rejected it.
"Fair enough Reactiv don't have to tell people their plans, but when you want the goodwill on your side with joint tenants a lot of this could have been avoided."
Fact is TA did call a meeting to discuss the plans for the Shay and to tell people about them had CMBC been interested.
Fact is some Town fans will never trust TA or reactiv and never will and will never offer goodwill of any kind to the RL club.
Fact is all the bad blood has been coming from one direction, a small group of Town fans, the real nasty bits the RL fans have reacted to, without the nasty bits it could have all been avoided.
Do what you like, it will change and affect absolutely nothing.
Fact is Fax are playing at the Shay against Batley this week and for the rest of the season.
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| Quote: charlie caroli "D o you mean Peace to ALL men ?'"
Sadly no i do have a certain bias against a certain teams supporters not too far away apart from that peace & love to all even clowns and Leythers
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| Quote: bentleyman "
does it rhyme with Shatford?
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| Quote: "2)Bearing in mind the above there was divided opinion about the groundshare in 1998.
3)Accepting the rugby club was moving into share the Shay and bringing 1m investment
should be a good deal allround.
4)The then Fax directors used the Asda money to pay their loans off and effectively movedin for nothing.'"
Let’s get one thing straight, FC Halifax Town are relatively new tenants at the Shay who moved in paying less than the standing tenants. They are not the team that were in residence when HRLFC moved in. In fact they Quote: "effectively moved in for nothing'" . If they want to claim to be the original tenants, how about paying the rent they owed when they liquidated.
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| Quote: faxfanman "
Guilty as charged
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| Quote: Sideshow Bob "Let’s get one thing straight, FC Halifax Town are relatively new tenants at the Shay who moved in paying less than the standing tenants. They are not the team that were in residence when HRLFC moved in. In fact they . If they want to claim to be the original tenants, how about paying the rent they owed when they liquidated.'"
here here!!
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| Quote: bentleyman "
you're not alone
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| From the club website :
Halifax Council has today issued the following Press Release;
“The Council is very pleased that HRLFC has paid off a substantial amount of the arrears allowing it access to all facilities at the Shay Stadium. The Council and HRLFC have made a commitment to discuss how we can move forward and work together as we remain committed to supporting the Shay to be a thriving sports venue”.
In response the Club has stated;
“HRLFC are delighted to have agreed with the Council that as regards any invoiced charges which may be outstanding in respect of the Shay, the position of each party is reserved. We look forward to taking part in discussions to secure a fair and final resolution of all remaining issues relating to the use and occupancy of Stadium facilities by the Town’s two professional sporting clubs.”
Season 2014 is extremely important to the Club with the re introduction of promotion and relegation in 2015. The teams that finish in the top two this season will receive additional funding to allow them to compete that much better in 2015.
The Board of Directors and friends of Halifax RLFC have invested heavily this season hoping for success and the attendance at our first game of the season was disappointingly low. If fans want to see Halifax RLFC with a chance of playing in Super League they now need to get behind the team by supporting us in larger numbers, especially over the next month when we play at home, those teams who seem to be our greatest rivals
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| Cue the luddites. If we have been given access all facilities, does this mean that we did have access either removed or threat of removal? If so does this add fuel to the rumour that FC Halifax have a mole on the inside?
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| Quote: spanishbob "Cue the luddites. If we have been given access all facilities, does this mean that we did have access either removed or threat of removal? If so does this add fuel to the rumour that FC Halifax have a mole on the inside?'"
I don't know what you mean about the mole, but, if we haven't been paying our way then we haven't been paying our way in my book.
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