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| Quote marillion man="marillion man"You must have given them plenty of possession in kickable position.....'"
Fact is that most of the arguments against bonus points that you see on this forum don't actually stack up when you look at them hard.
Contribute to the game and don't get beaten by more than 12 - then you won't have a problem.
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| Featherstone are top because they have secured three bonus points from losing to Swinton, York and Doncaster - three teams that they should be beating comfortably.
Batley are two wins behind us but have lost five more games than us!
Sorry, that just doesn't tick the fairness box for me.
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| Quote Fax Faithful="Fax Faithful"Featherstone are top because they have secured three bonus points from losing to Swinton, York and Doncaster - three teams that they should be beating comfortably.
Batley are two wins behind us but have lost five more games than us!
Sorry, that just doesn't tick the fairness box for me.'"
Surely it's down to us for loseing by more than 12 points, instead of playing to the end of full time, rather than us gifting the opposition the bonus point?
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| We've only lost three games so even if we had got bonus points in all three, Batley would only be three wins behind us.
It's a futile argument as you have to work with the system as it stands but how can it be right for any team to be ranked lower than a team that has a worse win/loss/draw record than it does?
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| my idea of the bonus point coming off the winners three points leaving them with two would keep both teams playing until the final second.
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| Quote Cassandra="Cassandra"Surely it's down to us for loseing by more than 12 points, instead of playing to the end of full time, rather than us gifting the opposition the bonus point?'"
Exactly. You can't argue with that. Fax could have put the effort in and lost by less than 13. Like Batley have done.
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| Quote swifty62="swifty62"my idea of the bonus point coming off the winners three points leaving them with two would keep both teams playing until the final second.'"
Same points for a narrow win as for a draw, then.  Controversial.
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| Quote swifty62="swifty62"my idea of the bonus point coming off the winners three points leaving them with two would keep both teams playing until the final second.'"
I've said that from the off. If a team can't be bothered to play to the end of the 80, they deserve to lose one of there winning points.
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| Quote Fax4Life="Fax4Life"Not that many games are like that, like I said if it was so good how come its not been adopted by SL and Championship 1?'"
It's still used in CC1.
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| Quote faxlad66="faxlad66"I have mixed feelings on the issue, maybe if we had achieved a bonus point during all our lost games we would have a different opinion on the system as we would be top, but as we have not we deem it as rewarding failure. The bottom line is that we will take anything if it puts us top of the league so cant see Fev complaining too much!'"
Well I for one dislike it!
I could just about understand it if it was a reward for entertaing play, for example you get a point for scoring 5 trys in a game.
Griff would have you believe it makes no difference, but if you look at the current table, I'd be a bit miffed if I was a Sheffield fan and we lost out on top Spot to Fev because Fev got 4 bonus points and Sheffield 1 BP. And the bottom of the table even worse how about being a Swinton fan and finding yourself relegated having won more games than Barrow? And at what cost over the next few years!
A system that means that can mean get more points for 4 losses (4 BP) than a win and 3 losses (0 BP) just does not feel right.
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| Quote Cassandra="Cassandra"Surely it's down to us for loseing by more than 12 points, instead of playing to the end of full time, rather than us gifting the opposition the bonus point?'"
That backs up my point, if you lose then you lose and get Nil Points as they say in Eurovision land.
I have no grumbles with that we lost to Fev twice and Sheffield and got nowt as we failed, end of story.
As for your statement playing for the full 80 minutes yer but we had already lost all those 3 games at around the 50th minute point so that is irrelevant it aint like we were losing in a close game we just didn't play well in most of the game full stop!
Like I said if its so good SL and RU would have adopted it, you may note RU rewards scoring more tries and cricket rewards scoring more runs and getting more wickets, not for holding out for a close defeat!
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"Same points for a narrow win as for a draw, then.
Controversial.'"
ok, 4 points for a win instead of the 3. then same as said before.
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