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| Quote johnny freeman fan club="johnny freeman fan club"We have had various suggestions for T. shirts so anyone not liking the Hate one doesn`t have to buy the T.shirt. What do people think about
Franchising is for Mcdonalds not for Rugby League.
Also our protest is an orderly and disciplined one , we will not be happy at all with anything like running on the pitch or doing anything detrimental towards the club.
This is about asking questions of the RFL and requiring answers to those questions and campaining for the reintroduction of promotion and relegation.'"
i personally think this is fantastic...a peaceful protest to try and get the point across to the rfl...well done
and the franchising is for McDonalds and nt for rugby league made me chuckle. 
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| Can anyone anywhere tell me one good thing that the franchise system has achieved?
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| Quote tommy="tommy"Personally I don't think RL is strong enough to have 'simple' P&R which is simply the best going up because of the difference in money, player standard etc. However, that could be down to how the RFL run things and share the money I suppose so the notion of 'simple' P&R could still stand (ergo you are indeed correct), I just don't think that in the current RL climate you could just switch a button and let most teams from the Championship up without it ending in relegation the next year.'"
But that is because the Championship Clubs are geting a great deal less money.
3yrs ago if they had allowed Widnes up do you think they would have done worse than Crusaders even allowing for all the money they threw at them ?
So is it fair to change rules in order to keep the clubs in that they want and deliberatly keep clubs out who may do better than Crusaders , Paris, Gateshead and now Tolouse in for as long as they can till it goes pear shaped.
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| We are also not saying that everything in the press release is perfect they are just an expeession of how many fans feel, what we want to do is stimulate discussion because everyone is frightened to death of speaking out against the RFL so in that respect it`s worked.
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| Quote hodgson15="hodgson15"Can anyone anywhere tell me one good thing that the franchise system has achieved?'"
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| Quote Bubba="Bubba"I know it comes down to personal opinion but I really cannot understand why anyone would be against P&R. Its the most fair, sporting, accurate, you name it, way.'"
It is hard to work when you have a part time league team joining a full time league. Theres no time to bring players in as most have been snapped up and unless your team is very good and can make the step up like HKR did then its destined to be a failure.
I think there has to be a happy medim somewhere though.
+1 to not liking the tag line. Every time i read it i think, i dont actually hate RL, but it could be taken to mean that quite easily. Im also of the belief that simple P&R cant work in RL as it is at the moment. As has been said im more about the process been fair and transparent.
So i think its a good idea in principal i just think it needs a bit of tweaking.
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| I agree, not keen on the hate word, how about:
Championship clubs hate segregation, give us back super league relegation.
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| How about having a large RFL printed on a t-shirt with the word 'FAIL' across it as though it had been rubber-stamped?
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| Quote johnny freeman fan club="johnny freeman fan club"But that is because the Championship Clubs are geting a great deal less money.
3yrs ago if they had allowed Widnes up do you think they would have done worse than Crusaders even allowing for all the money they threw at them ?
So is it fair to change rules in order to keep the clubs in that they want and deliberatly keep clubs out who may do better than Crusaders , Paris, Gateshead and now Tolouse in for as long as they can till it goes pear shaped.'"
Absolutely, that's spot on. As I say because of the 'current RL climate' I think the RFL have, for the past few years, been making SL stronger and the Champs weaker (plus wasting money on s**te clubs and not lower leagues) because they want a 'shut shop'. Back when there was P&R as Leyther Matt alluded to you could still go up and down a bit easier but simply switching back to that is not as easy nowadays, all through the RFL's fault.
Either way, tag line or not, yours and the ST's idea is spot on and just in doing so so the protest and pressure group is still well recieved over here.
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| Listen guys the campaign is launched and our aim was to be thought provoking and controversial to give us a voice. Irrespective of the words Love / Hate etc, I do hate what the RFL have done to the game, my club and the general fan and more importantly the heartlands. I hate the lies and the corrupt behaviour of a nameless few. We will never get everyone on side with the campaign name but it is achieving it's intended response!!
What matters is what we do next, ensuring we work collectively and how we go about it as a group. We as The Trust will lead this and hopefully gain some momentum and support as we move along.
The meeting on Monday should should provide us with an idea of how much local support we have and how much noise RL Fans want to make.
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| Quote Tortured Soul="Tortured Soul"How about having a large RFL printed on a t-shirt with the word 'FAIL' across it as though it had been rubber-stamped?'"
I like this one .
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| Quote Tortured Soul="Tortured Soul"How about having a large RFL printed on a t-shirt with the word 'FAIL' across it as though it had been rubber-stamped?'"
I like this one. Maybe work in a licencing theme somewhere.
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