if we continue to play like this then we will not make the play offs, simple! HOWEVER it is not that long ago that we were in this position, remember hunslet leigh and fev. I think its time us fans really got behind the coach, not just the team, and let him know that we have faith in him.

Could that be down to the coach then?
Making too many wrong decisions like making Penky captain (again), did he never learn last time as the guy is not a born leader he is too individual, like when we need him to make the right call he does things like running the ball instead of taking the 2 points.
Said it many times before a well coached teams know how to beat us and we cannot cope, so yes once again I do question the coach do we have a gameplan???
Come on look at the resources at clubs like Batley and Sheffield not being cocky but they are small clubs compared to us yet because they have good coaches they do well, especially against us, so do Fev under another good coach.
We have done well the last 2 years under Calland because we have had a good squad of players and some individuals players who can score from nothing, but we have less of them now and I am concerned that we have gone backwards this season and yes I did go to Toulouse and they were bad there too.

I won't be getting behind the coach because I no longer have any faith in him.

Being pedantic here as I understand your point, but I wouldn't even put Batley in the same ballpark as Sheffield in terms of resources, mate. If you told me we (Batley) had enough money to sign even ONE out of Taulapapa, Yere or their new Samoan guy who recently had NRL trials, I'd probably spend the rest of 2011 laughing in your face.

Maybe based on support mate, I can only guess Mr Aston gets some decent sponsorships being in a large city like Sheffield.
When he goes I think they will struggle he is Mr Sheffield.

I won't be getting behind the coach because I no longer have any faith in him.'"

Like i said its probably his best game he has played for us and to be honest that break was all that he did. That just speaks volumes for how poor he has been for us. His kicking game has not been good for us and i bet he will be the first to admit that. Hopefully he can go from strength to strength after today but for me Holly and Black have to start and we cant afford the luxury of having a half back on the bench. On the note about passing, how bad is our passing? How many times do our props have to check or reach behind to catch a ball? Our distribution has got to be much crisper especially without a big pack. We cant afford small guys to be stopping running to catch a ball, they need all the momentum they can get.

Maybe he had no option but to take a pay cut as no-one else would have given him a job.

I notice how people are getting on Jones' back but I don't see anyone having a go at Black who has been totally anonymous so far this season.

Could it be that we reached two Grand Finals (and won one) DESPITE the coach rather than because of him?

It could be argued that, with the players that were available to the coach over the last two seasons, any other coach would have achieved just as much and, if they had sorted out the defence which our incumbant coach seems unable to do, might even have finished at the head of the league table in those two seasons and added a second Grand Final crown.

Who knows? But what is crystal clear is that things are not right with the team / coaching. Something needs to be done, though there are potential pitfalls in whatever transpires.

I was there today. Your pack was dire. I know how you feel I have been following my team through thick and thin for a lot of years.

You fans turned up in numbers but sorry but your squad looks thin too me. We will see but this isn't the Fax I have seen play certainly since 2004 when you put 50 on us.

Be a long season but sorry to say you were well beaten and played poorly.

Not a wind up it is just what I saw today.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly.

I cant believe none of you get it. This is just a ploy to get us in super league !!

Widnes got in by having and average team who couldnt beat an egg, so we have until July to go one better.....bottom of the table !

Getting good at this consipracy theory stuff me........or is it just the booze

Thanks. its good to hear what other clubs fans think.
You are bang on by the way. Looks like an easy win for you lads a week on Sunday, even worse what will Bradford do to us and on TV???

Next 2 league games are Leigh at home and widnes away. We're gonna be at the bottom of the league after 5 games with only 1 bonus point to our name.
I've said it all along (not on here though) that we've had the sucres of the last 2 seasons despite of Calland, he's taken us as far as he can and his time is up for me, but who we gonna replace him with?? because personally I don't think Ball or Gonzales are up to the job either, Martin Hall back as first team coach maybe???