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| Great result for the team. Some really great tries in there too.
Just a shame the atmosphere was terrible. The self titled “South Stand Barmy Army” were non existent. I get people are p*ssed at Grix but at least create a bit of an atmosphere for the players! 50 point winning margin and all we got was silence. What’s happened to that lad with the drum?
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| That is something that i forget to mention was the atmosphere and attendance. I think we are pretty split at the moment as a club as to what is wrong and the best way to deal with it. And it was clear yesterday with the poor atmosphere and equally poor attendance that some people me included but i will still attend all games this season are not happy and do not appreciate any questions being made about Simons position as coach being shut down with personal insults and questioning our knowledge of rugby league. We all care about this club and want what is best for it so for me whatever your opinion is you are as much as me entitled to it. And before anyone says something about the abuse aimed at Simon i do not condone that at all and will call it out when i hear it.
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| Ww started off with 2,150 against Sheffield. That was only going to improve if results and performances were good. A missed opportunity in my opinion but you can't win 'em all!
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| You can't blame the "fringe" fans from choosing the likes of Newcastle as one to miss, if they pick and choose their games, especially after such a poor display at Batley. £17 to £22 isn't great value for money (especially when folk are looking after their pennies) against such poor opposition who don't bring ANY fans adding to the drab atmosphere - there's nobody to bounce off!
As for the match itself, I thought our defence was top drawer, conceding to 2 grubber kicks, against a big pack. Certainly didn't look like the players weren't playing for Grix. Inman hopefully has made scrum half his own, so much more lively and creative than Wood, and no coincidence penalties conceded were very few with no Tangata. Lannon continues to be our best forward (obviously missed at Batley) and I thought Crooks looked good.
Hopefully can now kick on and do the job on Saturday and then onto moaning Mark the following week and everything rosy again.
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| Quote: Listenup94 "I think for the London game I’d sack Grix n get Greg florimos boots doing the coaching . I’d play beaujangles at 7 and move hooligan to fullback in woodys absence. Tony fax on the wing cos salty has completely lost his pace , ometoe in at hooker has like he says I don’t know how Moore gets a gig . Maher looks like he’s been signed by king cross under nines so can’t see him playing. I think crooks is a waste of space so I’d get hudd shay in at centre on duel reg . This on toilet paper looks like a winning team . UTP'"
Best post I have seen on here.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but this forum is down right depressing.
The club hasn't got a Beaumont, so we aren't going to be signing players like Lam, Asiata etc
Get a reality check and support the club as it is.
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| The attendance was poor but there were very few Newcastle supporters, I think London brought more.
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| After time to consider my thoughts and read other peoples opinions here is my tuppence for what it is worth.
The game was probably the least exciting and inspiring I have seen for ages. The lack of atmosphere certainly did not help but the quality was very poor too. Newcastle started ok but soon fell away and tired later on which then flattered our scoreline. We did the job but tougher opposition ahead.
My thoughts on the team on the day:
Pickersgill did what he does, safe and steady with a hint of pace. Salty was Salty. Crooks was not the threat I thought he might be and defence was suspect. Mcomb was all energy and enthusiasm and once again played above his weight. Walmlsey did exactly what he does best just coach him how to defend. Inman was superb, I hope he can do the same against better teams. Jouffret had more room than at Batley and made the most of it. Fairbank was a monster in defence and teams must be fed up of his direct running. Gee just brilliant. Kav misses Keyes inside him but put in a shift. Murray better than of late. O`Brien ,smart and lively and tenacious defence. Calcott on top form.
The subs all had an impact but especially Lannon who must have run Inman close for mom even though he only played half the game.
Due to games being in London and a Friday night in Sheffield and holiday this was likely the last game I will see for over a month. Many years since that happened. Summer rugby eh!
I hope to see some wins when i watch the highlights ont` net.
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| Quote: MP "Great result for the team. Some really great tries in there too.
Just a shame the atmosphere was terrible. The self titled “South Stand Barmy Army” were non existent. I get people are p*ssed at Grix but at least create a bit of an atmosphere for the players! 50 point winning margin and all we got was silence. What’s happened to that lad with the drum?'"
Unfortunatley I think it was always going to be the case. It was a good game for the players as they were never going to lose but for the fans its an awful going for the same reason along with the poor run of form and its hard to get people ecited for it. A last minute "fanzone" isn't going to get people through the door and with less than maybe 100-200 adults paying through the gate it will be a worry for the board. Barmy Army we can presume voted with their feet as well by the looks of it.
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| Quote: Uptonfax "Best post I have seen on here.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but this forum is down right depressing.
The club hasn't got a Beaumont, so we aren't going to be signing players like Lam, Asiata etc
Get a reality check and support the club as it is.'"
The thing is, nobody or at least nobody I know is expecting that. People who are complaining about the team seem to be basing it on the squad we have at the moment and the views of people who would like a new coach are that we are under performing with the talent we have available.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "The thing is, nobody or at least nobody I know is expecting that. People who are complaining about the team seem to be basing it on the squad we have at the moment and the views of people who would like a new coach are that we are under performing with the talent we have available.'"
Maybe he’s a super league quality coach trying to coach championship level players .
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| Quote: terry silver "That is something that i forget to mention was the atmosphere and attendance. I think we are pretty split at the moment as a club as to what is wrong and the best way to deal with it. And it was clear yesterday with the poor atmosphere and equally poor attendance that some people me included but i will still attend all games this season are not happy and do not appreciate any questions being made about Simons position as coach being shut down with personal insults and questioning our knowledge of rugby league. We all care about this club and want what is best for it so for me whatever your opinion is you are as much as me entitled to it. And before anyone says something about the abuse aimed at Simon i do not condone that at all and will call it out when i hear it.'"
For me those people on the Facebook site who try to bully anyone who has the opinion that we need a new coach are far worse than those that are expressing an opinion which they are more than welcome to do. People using beating Newcastle to try and make a point of how good we are and how wrong everyone who has been saying Grix out is was kind of funny in an ironic way. Ive said many times that I would love to see Grix suceed but the fact is that this year we have gone backwards and we have a team looking beaten down and devoid of confidence and that usually comes from the top and with the views Grix has expressed in public its pretty easy to see why.
I posted elsewhere that I can see us finishing 7th with our run in and can't see us winning more than 4 from our last 8 games and I wonder if people are happy with that as we have obviously out performed our budget like anyone who says anything bad is told. So a pretty good season going from 3rd to 7th? Maybe, just maybe, a win next week could save the season and in reality will ease Grix's position a bit. I can see us winning because I know there is a very good team in there and on their day they are a match for anyone in the league hence my prediction of 2nd/3rd this season but to me it is a team who does not want to play for the coach, all the signs are there and my opinion is that if anyone can't see that then maybe you are lacking experience of team sports.
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| Quote: Listenup94 "Maybe he’s a super league quality coach trying to coach championship level players .'"
I did laugh reading that but honestly there is a chance that you are right and we only have this job to judge him on but.....I still think we are under performing so maybe his methods are not working with championship players and he needs to adapt, afterall its easier for 1 coach to adapt than it is for 20 odd players.
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| I found the game at the weekend particularly poor and the atmosphere reflected that. We weren't great in the first half until that burst just before half time when we picked up a fair few points, We then conceded 12 points fairly quickly in the second half but I don't think the result was ever in doubt, Newcastle are poor and we scored 50 without getting out of second gear.
I've said to others, if we win on Saturday, the mood around the club will shift quickly. A 1895 Cup win would make our season look reasonable as people will forget the poor league campaign. But it's going to take a huge effort for that to happen currently.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "I did laugh reading that but honestly there is a chance that you are right and we only have this job to judge him on but.....I still think we are under performing so maybe his methods are not working with championship players and he needs to adapt, afterall its easier for 1 coach to adapt than it is for 20 odd players.'"
I think Grixs’ weaknesses are recruitment and possibly man management but not coaching
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "with less than maybe 100-200 adults paying through the gate it will be a worry for the board.'"
As long as the entrance fees are as high as there are, I cannot see much improvement tbh. I suppose 4 pints and a burger for less in wetherspoons is more of an attraction, especially in the rain. Not just a Fax problem, of course, with rivals London and Sheffield recently getting barely 1,000 (with far greater catchment areas I may add!).
One gets the feeling Haven is only the tip of the iceberg. Doesn't help when the likes of Leigh literally trash the championship last season playing super league players, all the other teams might as well have packed in saving time and money, twas impossible to compete. There should be a salary cap to prevent such farces. And we all need to do a Batley and reduce the admin to a tenner. Permanently. Which will unfortunately mean reducing player contracts accordingly. We all seem to be sleep walking into oblivion. Rant over!
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