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| Don't get me wrong I like Murrell but it's annoyed the hell out of me that he's come back in the shape he has, and seems to think it's a joke. This to me worryingly shows he maybe has more influence backroom then he should have. If I was the head coach and a player of his stature and importance came back out of shape I would question his loyalty or commitment to the overall team and to his own individual performances. Then to publicly mock himself on social media and TV about it is quite frankly mocking the fans who pay good money to watch the team and players be the best they can be.
This is still a professional league and you are still a professional sportsman. Whats worse is that he is the teams main man, the leader. His performances this season and kicking have been poor, no coincidence he's out of shape and his levels drop. Yes I know he's winding down his career but he is relied upon to influence the team, probably more then should be required.
Even a fit Murrell isn't the most mobile but at least give yourself a fighting chance. In any job if I came back in poor shape or didn't perform as I could due to restraints I had brought upon myself I would be disciplined. At the moment he's no more then a pivot, yes he talks and directs but at the cost of a player able to get on the end of things like breaks, or get through a break himself. I do feel at the moment he's very Rooneyesque in his contribution, the idea is far more sweet then the reality, and it's a shame as he does make a difference IF fit, at the moment he's not and it shows.
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| Exactly my thoughts.Reality though he is a shu in still when you're signing Keighley rejects as competition.
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| I knew attendances would drop with this ticketing policy farce. I may have popped down on the spur of the moment last night if prices on the gate were fair.
An urgent review or this policy is required. During the coming summer months, there are so many things a family can be doing on a Sunday. Things change at the last minute, which gives the chance for maybe a trip to the Shay. For a lot of people, that option is now too prohibitively expensive to consider. Only the die-hards are pre-paying, you HAVE to persuade the fairweathers on the day too.
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| Quote: ronniebarker "I knew attendances would drop with this ticketing policy farce. I may have popped down on the spur of the moment last night if prices on the gate were fair.
An urgent review or this policy is required. During the coming summer months, there are so many things a family can be doing on a Sunday. Things change at the last minute, which gives the chance for maybe a trip to the Shay. For a lot of people, that option is now too prohibitively expensive to consider. Only the die-hards are pre-paying, you HAVE to persuade the fairweathers on the day too.'" Exactly.
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| Quote: Waddy-Fax "The club just don't seem to think things through at times. I hope we do beat Toulouse, I just can't see it with our lack of attack. Lets not get carried away by the Leigh result, Leigh are crap at the moment, everyone and his dog is beating Leigh. Head says we won't get within 30 points of Toulouse. Yes we beat them there last season but that team on paper was a lot better then this one and players like Murrell are a year older and lets be honest not in the same shape as last year which will effect things as he's our go too man.'"
Well, not every dog is beating us - we've won two games so far, both against Batley BULLDOGS. Every man might be beating us, but definitely not their dogs!
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| Quote: Waddy-Fax "Don't get me wrong I like Murrell but it's annoyed the hell out of me that he's come back in the shape he has, and seems to think it's a joke. This to me worryingly shows he maybe has more influence backroom then he should have. If I was the head coach and a player of his stature and importance came back out of shape I would question his loyalty or commitment to the overall team and to his own individual performances. Then to publicly mock himself on social media and TV about it is quite frankly mocking the fans who pay good money to watch the team and players be the best they can be.
This is still a professional league and you are still a professional sportsman. Whats worse is that he is the teams main man, the leader. His performances this season and kicking have been poor, no coincidence he's out of shape and his levels drop. Yes I know he's winding down his career but he is relied upon to influence the team, probably more then should be required.
Even a fit Murrell isn't the most mobile but at least give yourself a fighting chance. In any job if I came back in poor shape or didn't perform as I could due to restraints I had brought upon myself I would be disciplined. At the moment he's no more then a pivot, yes he talks and directs but at the cost of a player able to get on the end of things like breaks, or get through a break himself. I do feel at the moment he's very Rooneyesque in his contribution, the idea is far more sweet then the reality, and it's a shame as he does make a difference IF fit, at the moment he's not and it shows.'"
You would know this far better than I could, but to me, it seemed like he annihilated us, at 'Fax - and his kicking game was spot on, that day. (apart from the late chip into Hall's hands!) Think yourselves lucky you have your two halves, and not any of ours!
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| Quote: Alan "Well, not every dog is beating us - we've won two games so far, both against Batley BULLDOGS. Every man might be beating us, but definitely not their dogs!'" icon_smile.gif least you've retained you're sense of humour..
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| Quote: Alan "You would know this far better than I could, but to me, it seemed like he annihilated us, at 'Fax - and his kicking game was spot on, that day. (apart from the late chip into Hall's hands!) Think yourselves lucky you have your two halves, and not any of ours!'" It's very easy to kick the ball into touch at end of each set when you've a 18+ lead as the Oldham 7 did last night.That doesn't neccessarily constitute a good kicking game.
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| Personally I feel we should of played our full strength team against Oldham. If we lose at Toulouse which is likely way Toulouse are playing its been a bad week and a missed opportunity. We underestimated Oldham and got what we deserved.
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| Quote: chazzerboy "Personally I feel we should of played our full strength team against Oldham. If we lose at Toulouse which is likely way Toulouse are playing its been a bad week and a missed opportunity. We underestimated Oldham and got what we deserved.'" Not just hindsight, after Leigh several people said it was important to keep a settled team with the new combinations.Bit cheated really as a cup tie with HKR would have been the high of what is going to be a depressing season.Hope that round isn't televised as we'd have probably got that too.
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| Just got back and missed last nights game and can’t comment on the standard of play.
The result would suggest that the those who played weren’t good enough.
Listened to RM’s comments and he clearly thinks the league is more important than the cup and we wouldn’t have been able to back up on the weekend if we had fielded a full strength side.
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| Quote: faxcar "Just got back and missed last nights game and can’t comment on the standard of play.
The result would suggest that the those who played weren’t good enough.
Listened to RM’s comments and he clearly thinks the league is more important than the cup and we wouldn’t have been able to back up on the weekend if we had fielded a full strength side.'"
Is he going to write off one of the Easter games as well......?
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| Quote: Mr Dog "Is he going to write off one of the Easter games as well......?'"
He’ll probably rely on DR.
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| Quote: faxcar "He’ll probably rely on DR.'"
...so none are available for the Toulouse game?
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| Quote: Mr Dog "...so none are available for the Toulouse game?'"
Likely will be but not for the Oldham game because as you know being cup tied.
He obviously made the decision to rest a number of first team regulars with one eye on the Toulouse game and to give some of the younger lads from the reserves an opportunity against Oldham still believing they would be good enough on the night.
They weren’t and it didn’t work and he admitted it and takes responsibility, the Courier report covers it.
Doubt he will do it again on such a scale and taking fitness and form into account for league games team selection will be from established first teamers, loan players / DR players and reserve team players in that order.
Not saying it is right or wrong just answering the question.
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