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| Mr Harry Gration,
Following todays franchise announcement I thought I would share my views as I have heard you will be interviewing Nigel Wood on tonights show,
As a Halifax RLFC Supporter I am confused and upset at the RFL’s decision, as you would expect many of us are.
Can you ask Nigel simply how he expects Fans of clubs outside SL with aspirations of top flight rugby can find the motivation to continue spending their hard earned money following the sport, when quite clearly the Governing body of this great sport are willing to support clubs breaking ‘rules’ quite clearly set in the franchise guidelines, and award these clubs with a licence?
Baffling to me.
Regards
hopefully this will be asked
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| Quote: Faxhali "For me too. FWIW i think the club should get a copy of wakeys Franchise bid both this year and last SL license and compare, They could get this using the freedom of information act, If some UFO nerd can get stuff from the american government re area 51 then i am sure the club could get a copy of these, Scrutinise, ask the questions and then pull them to pieces. I dont care how much money the RFL have, a stand must be taken here.'"
Why just Wakefield's? Who says it was between us two? Why not vent your anger at Cas/Harlequins/Salford?
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| Quote: johnny freeman fan club "I am sick to the stomach over this although to tell the truth I never expected to get in but this farce takes the biscuit.
I am furious with the RFL but I intend to work hard so that our club does not suffer over this. Why should we walk away from our club because the RFL are corrupt? Maybe the Clubs hands are tied but the fans are not I will not be puting any money into the RFL anymore unless it directly benifits my Club.
All Championship Clubs fans should get together and put statements out , encouraging all Championship fans should no longer buy any tickets to any Super League Grand Final or travel down to Crusaders.Expansionisam has failed again but it will not be long before the RFL will promote them again and expect our clubs to inflate their crowds.
Crusaders Directors have just made a statement that they withdrew their bid because the finance was unsustainable in Super League so more than likely we will have them back in the Championship . Well let`s not spend our money going there , lets hold a fundraiser for our own Club instead and why doesn`t somebody start talking to PROBIZ to see if he fancies financing another breakaway he may be up for it.'"
Do you know what really gets my goat, It goes to show that the licensing and the independant panel are totally full of e and inadequate at what they do.
Celtic Crusaders would have been allowed to stay in superleague had the club themselves not pulled the plug, So KPMG and savilles and Panel deem crusaders to be financially viable yet the people who know and run the club say they are not, what kind of credability does this give to the rest of the bids, NONE, so forget the past 3 years just because a money backer has come into wakey recently.
Its totally corrupt and I dont trust believe anything anymore. Whats more i don't beleive we ( as a club ) will do anything about it at all. I don't think they dare, and this isn't a dig but when we can't sack someone properly ( Stanley Gene ) what remote chance would we have of something like thiss, just being a realist, not a fantasist.
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| Quote: Ral "Why just Wakefield's? Who says it was between us two? Why not vent your anger at Cas/Harlequins/Salford?'"
Thats very fair to TBH it should be Grade C licenses and companies who have been in Administration.
Hope this is better for ya.
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| Quote: Knock On Nigel "
The public will back us'"
Not outside Halifax judging by comments on various forums
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| Well Im a fev fan, and although our clubs have not seen eye to eye, I think todays events are disgusting, the fact is they would have kicked wakefield out had simple as that, the fact that crusaders were "made" to fall on their sword was purely so they only had to lose one club and not promote another! Had they actually kicked crusaders out they would have been obliged to kick wakefield out too, as they are as bad as each other.
And what ever the ins and outs, the crusaders ruined the championship last time they were in with one rule for them policy! and they have been a joke in super league, yet Dick lewis can stand their and say his manufactured league is a success. I think the best course of action for fans to take is a simple Wood and lewis out stance and campaign for promotion and relegation.
A sport played by warriors and run by weasels
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| So you sue and then I assume Wakefield counter sue and where does that get us. We won fair and square like it or not we are the better option.
However I don't like franchise and prefer these things to be sorted out on the pitch so I understand your annoyance. Wakefield are not your enemy the system is. Yet 15 years ago Halifax were happy to take their 30 pieces of silver with little concern to the clubs not so lucky so you can't take the moral high ground to much.
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| Somebody had to lose out.
You lost.
Get over it.
It's just a game.
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| Quote: vastman "So you sue and then I assume Wakefield counter sue and where does that get us. We won fair and square like it or not [sizewe are the better option[/size.
However I don't like franchise and prefer these things to be sorted out on the pitch so I understand your annoyance. Wakefield are not your enemy the system is. Yet 15 years ago Halifax were happy to take their 30 pieces of silver with little concern to the clubs not so lucky so you can't take the moral high ground to much.'"
better option?
The problem with this franchise system is that it is never a level playing field. How can you compare two clubs against each other when one is allowed to spend millions per year more than the other??
I doubt that Wakefield are a better option, they have had many years of the high finance and are still bottom of the league playing in a dump of a ground.
Easy way out for the RFL I am afraid.
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| Quote: griff1998 "Somebody had to lose out.
You lost.
Get over it.
It's just a game.'"
I didn't lose anything Halifax were not chosen or even given a grade C license when another club fresh out of administration with a ground that does not meet the criteria were chosen and I would like to know why.
Getting over something does not mean that I allow someone else which is the RFL that have lied and twisted their own rules for an unknown reason that will stagger the rugby league world.
It's not about Fax v Wakey or any other club, it's about the people at Redhall that are corrupt and what they are doing sets a precedent for EVERY club not currently in Super League.
One day it may directly affect you and your club and then you might not take it so lightly.
Many people take delight in anything that adversley effects Halifax you would have thought they could get over that but apparantley not.
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| Quote: spanishbob "better option?
The problem with this franchise system is that it is never a level playing field. How can you compare two clubs against each other when one is allowed to spend millions per year more than the other??
I doubt that Wakefield are a better option, they have had many years of the high finance and are still bottom of the league playing in a dump of a ground.
Easy way out for the RFL I am afraid.'"
Well you doubt wrong, on every aspect of the criteria I suspect in fact I know we outscored you other than the ground. Just be reasonable and think about it, there is no way a club that is currently in SL with all the additions in place could possibly be beaten by a club that hasn't been near SL in years. There is no way you can beat a SL team on aspects of the club which you simply don't have as a Championship club, it's not fair bit it's true.
However that's all opinion and wasn't my point.
The problem is we all participate in this charade that is Franchise. When we benefit it's OK and when we don't we all cry foul. We are all complicit in it because none of us challenge it prefering the I'm all right Jack mentality - which is what Fax and their fans did in 1995 and what we will do in 2011. Welcome to life.
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| Suggestions from RL journos on Twitter, that elements of Halifax's submission had considerable "holes" in it.
Looks to me like your BoD have let the club down big style, with their crayoned submission.
Definitely making himself look silly on Sky with the "poodle" comments. Should be doing an "O'Connor", not a "Rowley"!
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| Quote: vastman "Well you doubt wrong, on every aspect of the criteria I suspect in fact I know we outscored you other than the ground. Just be reasonable and think about it, there is no way a club that is currently in SL with all the additions in place could possibly be beaten by a club that hasn't been near SL in years. There is no way you can beat a SL team on aspects of the club which you simply don't have as a Championship club, it's not fair bit it's true.
However that's all opinion and wasn't my point.
The problem is we all participate in this charade that is Franchise. When we benefit it's OK and when we don't we all cry foul. We are all complicit in it because none of us challenge it prefering the I'm all right Jack mentality - which is what Fax and their fans did in 1995 and what we will do in 2011. Welcome to life.'"
You missed my point. I actually agreed that your bid was probably better than ours, it HAD to be you have had many a years spending millions of pounds therefore will have youth structure in place. However I did doubt that your a better option. You have had many years spending Millions and are in exactly the same place, if not a worse place, than you were 3 years ago. Therefore Halifax are the better option, as we have done nothing but grow over the last 3 years. We have also made assurances that with superleague money we would also have a structured under 16 and under 20 development structe (something the RFL agree we shouldnt be able to run on a Championship budget).
I am sure the noises coming out of Wakefield would have been different had the boot been on the other foot. We are all aware of life and we are well and truly in it, it just hurts when the RFL show themselves to do exactly what they want and shaft the clubs outside of the "special club".
Franchising does nothing but feather the caps of those who are in the club and serves to punish those who wish to join. Laural and Hardy (Wood and Lewis) are hell bent on destroying the clubs in the lower divisions under the guise of growth and expansionism.
blackballed again. Its a tough club to get into.
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| Quote: dboy "Suggestions from RL journos on Twitter, that elements of Halifax's submission had considerable "holes" in it.
Looks to me like your BoD have let the club down big style, with their crayoned submission.
Definitely making himself look silly on Sky with the "poodle" comments. Should be doing an "O'Connor", not a "Rowley"!'"
the voice of reason.
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| Quote: dboy "Suggestions from RL journos on Twitter, that elements of Halifax's submission had considerable "holes" in it.
Looks to me like your BoD have let the club down big style,'"
You could well be correct. I guess we will never know. I do know that i am finished with RL both Fax and the RFL.
The sports a laughing stock.
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