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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "There are a handful of fans on both sides of the argument that are embarassing themselves. The question is though, why can't the fans who are of the opinion that we need a new coach celebrate the fact that we are going to Wembley? They have been, and will be, here long after this set of players and coaches have come and gone.

Theres a group of us that went to every game in 2003 and a lot of us were of the opinion that is was time for a change but we are not fans and should stay away? Brilliant. First a question. Are you "The Blues Ox" poster on Total?

"Why can't you celebrate" you can but don't ask me how you can when your support for everyone who got us there as been zero and when Listenup pointed out that many within the club thought this forum should be shut down precisely because of the negative affect it was having, you replied something like "If they don't want to hear it then don't come on here."

So it's okay to tell others to stay away then is it?

They don't have the right to defend the club but you have the right to attack it?

You even claimed to be paying their wages as if you can buy the right to slag people off when any ones admission price, ticket or whatever actually entitles the person entry into the ground on match day and that's it.

Forums are free of charge and it's down to the discretion of those using them as to what they say which in your case as been clearly undeniably negative where Grix has been concerned, as part of your side of the argument you expect the highest standards and achievements from the coaching staff but demonstrate the lowest standards in your false, exaggerated contradictory comments about him.

Actually you have highlighted where part of your problem lies by mentioning 2003 which is living in the past (which both me and mine went to every game as well.)

However what anyone did back in 2003 or any other historical period of the game or the club was experienced and applied back then, for the good and the bad back then and has no bearing or credit value for 2023.

You also mentioned a group of you from back then in 2003 and that's the part of the problem.

That's precisely where you have been living, in a group of old fashioned rugby league fans many who have never played the game at any level or if and when they did it was back in the 70's / 80's with a terrace / tap room / armchair view and understanding of the game and have no idea of anything outside those areas all feeding off the same limited outdated diet as one another.

It all reminds me of one of these DIY construction topic forums where you have these guys come on giving out advice on say basic plumbing or electrics, they've never been qualified in any of it but they've watched a couple of videos or bought an out of date book that they've been reading for the past 40 years and start giving the advice as if their some informed guru level genius, but then I suppose some will do and say anything for a few "Like" clicks from their peers.

Back to your question on celebrating and wanting a change of coach it's simple.

Based on 2023 for the coach he's the one who has got us there so why should he have to go and but you can stay?

You haven't got us there and if you haven't put anything in how can you get something out?

You want to share and to be part of the good times but don't want to share and be part of the hard times of the same season?