The situation above is as cut and dried as it can be. Wakefield are a SL club until their players SL contracts expire for this season.

I think the only interpretation up for debate is what angle Wakefield are using to achieve their desired goal which is to sign Walmsley for as little money as they can. I do think this is the part where people are getting confused as to what is actually going on, and in my eyes it is very scummy what Wakefield are trying to do and I will say that until proved otherwise, but Wakefield could sign Walmsley today if they liked(presuming end of month contract expiry as mentioned above but the same applies before last weeks Grand Final) as long as firstly, Walmsley agreed personal terms(maybe this is holding it up?), and secondly they were willing to pay the fee that is in Walmsley's contract. The fact that they have yet to announce his signing suggests to me Wakefield don't want to pay that fee and I would go so far to say that they are pretty confident that they can get Walmsley to force a release and they can negotiate a lesser fee with Fax knowing they will not want to keep an unhappy player.

How often will you see a player coming out in the press basically saying he wants to leave and then goes back on that and ends up re-settling at his current team? Another interesting angle is that it may be in Walmsley's best interests to wait a couple of weeks and then London officially become a SL team and could be another possible destination for him and could give him some negotiating power of his own. If I were him that would be my play, this would also be a good thing for Fax as well in regards getting more money for him.

But Walmsley isn’t a Wakefield player so what applies to their current squad can’t be applied to him and my understanding is that the SL season ended on the 14th with the grand final and their players contracts became null and void after they were confirmed relegated and their last game which was before that date, either way it doesn’t change what angle Fax are disputing it from whether their right or not is irrelevant that’s the point you apparently don’t understand.

Concerning that I’m not confused at all, this thread was started with the Matt Shaw link which specifically says what the sticking point is mentioning the exact sub rule that covers it and that is what I am basing all my comments on and my opinion is that out of everybody who has said anything about it I choose to believe him.

If it was something other than that why would he not simply say so?

If you want to say me basing a discussion on the original link equates to not understanding, being blind and he can’t be trusted and you know better and post multiple speculative alternatives with no factual evidence to support it that’s your choice but it’s not mine.

On Wakefield talking to Walmsley again as per the terms of release rule no club can make a direct approach to the player and offer personnel terms, negotiations must take place between the two clubs and once they reach an agreement then the buying club can speak to him, of course if it gets to that stage there won’t be a problem as Walmsley himself said he wants to go full time to have a better chance of getting into SL but if you accept he said that then you must accept what he said about the clubs reaching an agreement in the same interview he can’t sign until that happens or whilst he’s away in Europe.

If you want to speculate and say Wakefield are playing for time it could well back fire if a current SL club comes in and legitimately triggers the release so if they really want him would they take the risk over 10 or 20 grand when they have a millionaire backer?
And it could be Fax playing for time putting the pressure on Wakefield knowing that they can’t get less than what’s already been offered or could even get to keep him.

Likewise if you speculate he can demand a release then as far as I’m concerned it would be demand and be dammed, your our player, your in breech of contract and your going nowhere otherwise you could open up the floodgates for an endless repeat episode in the future with anyone else with all the disruption that could cause.

Stepping away from Matt Shaw and the link I personally think it highly likely Walmsley will end up at Wakefield or somewhere else, Liam Finn admitted it would be hard to keep hold of him but at least for the fee specified in the release clause in my opinion.

PS. I have to edit about 20 times because when using an iPad it writes what it wants or the page fails before finishing .

We know how this goes so I am stepping out. There are a lot of things not correct in the above.

My last attempt based on what we actually do know as fact.

1.) This threads discussion was based on this link. while Wakefield had activated a release clause in his contract."

3.) Halifax have contested the interpretation of the clause, resulting in no agreement being reached at this stage[/i

4.) This was said about the clause. As per the RFL's supplement clause bank, clause 10.4 states"If you receive an approach from a Super League Club, the Club agrees to enter into negotiations with the Super League Club (on your behalf) in good faith with a view to reaching an agreement for your release and transfer to such Super League Club and the Club agrees that it will release you provided that the transfer fee is at least [insert amount]."[/i

5.) This is what Walmsley said. "Discussing the interest, [i"I just want to get myself into a full-time environment, whether that is Wakefield or any Super League team. If a deal happens I'll be blessed and happy. I want to get into a full-time team and push for Super League and I think it's my best chance to make it to Super League. I love Halifax and I've loved my time here, but I did the same to go from Whitehaven to Halifax and I think I've got to do the same now if I want to take another step in my career."[/i

Based on this article it's all crystal clear.

1.) Wakefield have activated the release clause which includes the Fee.
2.) Halifax have contested the terms of the release based on their interpretation of Wakefield's Super League status because they have been relegated.
3.) Walmsley regarding the above hopes a deal can be done between the two clubs so he could get closer to his SL dream and even acknowledged that this could be first going full time with Wakefield to "push for SL" or to any existing SL team.
(Even he doesn't think Wakefield are in Super League at this point in time!!)

Against that you have a poster who having spoken to none of the those involved completely ignores all the above and comes out with multiple unsupported alternatives which have no basis in facts and are purely products of their imagination whilst claiming others lack understanding and are blind.

My opinion is, my conclusions of what is going on are based on the journalist instead of the fantasist.

New Wakefield owners confirmed today, would be very surprised if Walmsley, plus others, aren't now also confirmed within next few days.

Yep, from their side he’s the one who signs the checks so to speak also won’t be the only club who are waiting to see if their one of the 12 chosen ones, or how close they are to see if it’s worth it.

rlhttps://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/lachlan-walmsley-paid-towards-transfer-28236016rl

Well played Wakey. Every trick in the book not to pay up, more fool Walmsley going to an empoyer who clearly can't value him that highly.

Suppose we ought to be glad Lachlan contributed or we may have lost him back to Oz without recompense..embarrassing for their new ‘money consortium’ penny pinching shysters hope it implodes soon and badly,they’ve enjoyed undeserved lofty status for years..

It shows how committed Lachlan is to play full time RL. Not many, if any, players would use their own money for a transfer deal.
He has shown Wakefield what a committed player he is even before putting his boots on for them.

is defence was not brilliant and gets cought out a lot one of them swinton trys in that last game he was shocking. I am not sure he will be the starting winger at wakey

The bit in the article about him going back to Aus if the Wakefield deal didn't happen stinks for me. He was contracted to us for next year yes he had this super league release clause in his contract but for him just to walk away and leave the club if he didn't get his own way says a lot about him and i do not mean that in a good way.

Still seems a bit of a strange decision for me .

Gone down in my estimation after reading this article.

Not going to lie but it would be funny if Wakey did manage to sign Tom Johnstone back.

I am not defending the guy per se, and how it has been reported makes one think he has acted like a spoiled child, ie if I don t get my own way I am going home.
Look at it another way for a moment, how would Fax fans have reacted if a player did that to a perceived ‘lesser’ club and joined Fax in the same way? Would you be saying all the negative things about them or saying it is a players right to want to improve and play at the highest level available to them, we all knew it would happen and he would move on/up.
I’m just hurts how it has been reported, Wakey don t come out of this smelling of roses, if they had paid up first off every one would be disappointed but wished him the best.