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| Quote: SuperGeoff "Oh the irony in that statement. The only way I can see selling it become the best option for the council is if the Stadium Trust were to reemerge and to control of the ground.'"
Is that the same Stadium Trust that went bust and handed back the lease to Calderdale Council by any chance?
Now you are having a laugh the SST failed to deliver yet still claims the credit for getting the Council to complete the East Stand when it was actually the fans of BOTH clubs who united and marched on the Town Hall which made the Councillors do something.
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| I got to say, looking at all the evidence, I don't think Reactiv will be buying the shay. Seems the council have been caught on the hop and there's a fair few legal hurdles to jump.
Maybe Tony should invest all he can in making Fax as great as he can do.......
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| I am going to the shay on sunday and am looking forward to it.
I also believe that the Football Conference is a more highly respected sporting league than tier 2 RL in the UK.
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| I would agree with that Nige. The conference is a tough league and whatever the feelings that exist between RL and Footy fans I have no doubts about the validity of that statement. RL both outside AND IN super league has some major restructuring to get through.
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| Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "No it wasnt it was tarted up with the bare minimum of work. The Capacity is reduced due to the state of the stand like lack of toilets amongst other things. The Shay is losing alot of money and something the Council cant afford in the long term. It will be sold off whether we like it or not. Its just a question of when. Higher level of interest to whom? Go back to your pathetic little luddite forum. You have no interest on here except to be a keyboard warrior. You and your luddite friends are clueless about your own club let alone trying to think you know anything about Rugby League in Australia or Fax.'"
Well don't you look a little bit stupid now. If they were so desperate to sell the Shay it would have been put on the open market.
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| Quote: SuperGeoff "Well don't you look a little bit stupid now. If they were so desperate to sell the Shay it would have been put on the open market.'"
No, it's you who not only looks stupid but IS stupid. Why don't you just go back on your own site with the rest of the idiots?
I don't notice this forum having hundreds of pages of rhetoric about the stadium. I don't think that most Fax fans are particularly bothered who owns the stadium, we're more interested in what happens on that bit of grass in the middle and I personally am only interested when an oval ball is being used as I find football a totally boring game played by a load of overpaid prima donnas.
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| Quote: SuperGeoff "Well don't you look a little bit stupid now. If they were so desperate to sell the Shay it would have been put on the open market.'"
I don't think the term desperate to sell has been used, more like an option to sell.
What the statement does say is.
1. The council are facing enormous financial pressure. (To which the Shay is contributing.)
2.The Shay both needs and deserves further investment. (To which in view of the above they cannot provide but Reactiv can and have been doing.)
3.They welcome the support The Reactiv Media Group is already giving and will continue to talk to them.
(Notice a thank you for the support from Reactiv with no mention of Town.)
4.They are interested in hearing from others. (Which means the option to sell is still a possibilty.)
We know your views on the subject which differ from the majority on here and you state them on every post yet you have not been booted off as you claimed would happen.
You complain about insults and the only one not doing so yet the next day reply by calling someone stupid.
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| Quote: Fax Machine "No, it's you who not only looks stupid but IS stupid. Why don't you just go back on your own site with the rest of the idiots?
I don't notice this forum having hundreds of pages of rhetoric about the stadium. I don't think that most Fax fans are particularly bothered who owns the stadium, we're more interested in what happens on that bit of grass in the middle and I personally am only interested when an oval ball is being used as I find football a totally boring game played by a load of overpaid prima donnas.'"
And without the work of the town fans the ground would have been put into an uncertain future. I'm ure that isn't what you want is it?
If you want to watch a team full of players who give 100% to the cause and aren't overpaid by a club who are run in profit then you'd love FC Halifax Town.
I for one am glad that the rest of the world doesn't share your view, hence why football is a sport played all over the world by people of all races.
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| Quote: faxcar "I don't think the term desperate to sell has been used, more like an option to sell.
What the statement does say is.
1. The council are facing enormous financial pressure. (To which the Shay is contributing.)
2.The Shay both needs and deserves further investment. (To which in view of the above they cannot provide but Reactiv can and have been doing.)
3.They welcome the support The Reactiv Media Group is already giving and will continue to talk to them.
(Notice a thank you for the support from Reactiv with no mention of Town.)
4.They are interested in hearing from others. (Which means the option to sell is still a possibilty.)
We know your views on the subject which differ from the majority on here and you state them on every post yet you have not been booted off as you claimed would happen.
You complain about insults and the only one not doing so yet the next day reply by calling someone stupid.'"
1. I agree but the Shay is only a very small portion of the problem
2. What money have Reactiv put into the ground? Only money they've put in is an attempt to keep you solvent.
3. What are they supposed to say about Town? "Thanks for making us realise the legal barriers that we'd torn down"?
4. I read this to be in terms of sponsorship and grants. The Football Foundation would be a very good possibility for this.
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| Quote: SuperGeoff "And without the work of the town fans the ground would have been put into an uncertain future. I'm ure that isn't what you want is it?
If you want to watch a team full of players who give 100% to the cause and aren't overpaid by a club who are run in profit then you'd love FC Halifax Town.
I for one am glad that the rest of the world doesn't share your view, hence why football is a sport played all over the world by people of all races.'"
Why on earth would I "love FC Halifax Town"? I've just told you the game bores me rigid and after reading the input on Shaymen.net I couldn't bear to breathe the same air as most of that lot.
I don't care how popular football is. If the football World Cup Final was being played at the bottom of my road between England and Brazil and I had a free ticket I wouldn't go and watch it. When the last world cup was on and England were playing one of their games I went to watch Fax at Batley.
FCHT fans constantly harp on about our "minority sport" and I can never work out if it is meant as an insult, in which case it hasn't worked, or whether they are suggesting that you should only watch the most popular sport the same as everyone else does. One of them even suggested that any man who doesn't like football is weird. If so I hold my hand up and state that I'd rather be weird than told what I must watch.
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| Quote: Fax Machine "Why on earth would I "love FC Halifax Town"? I've just told you the game bores me rigid and after reading the input on Shaymen.net I couldn't bear to breathe the same air as most of that lot.
I don't care how popular football is. If the football World Cup Final was being played at the bottom of my road between England and Brazil and I had a free ticket I wouldn't go and watch it. When the last world cup was on and England were playing one of their games I went to watch Fax at Batley.
FCHT fans constantly harp on about our "minority sport" and I can never work out if it is meant as an insult, in which case it hasn't worked, or whether they are suggesting that you should only watch the most popular sport the same as everyone else does. One of them even suggested that any man who doesn't like football is weird. If so I hold my hand up and state that I'd rather be weird than told what I must watch.'"
In the same way that playing in a sport here my team could not be promoted or relegated would bore me. Just out of interest, when was the last time an unfancied team from a lower division beat a bigger club in the challenge cup? I'd say not recently. The side with the biggest players and the most pace always win Rugby League matches. Football is a game of skill and patience. Rugby League has become a joke in the last 17 years.
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| Quote: Fax Machine "Are you deaf or just plain stupid?
ok, I'll shout: FOR THE LAST TIME I AM NOT THE SLIGHTEST BIT INTERESTED IN YOUR BORING, CRAPPY GAME!
Have you got that now?
Skill and patience?
You have to pass the ball backwards AND forwards. It make sense as to why you dislike it now. As I said, you're welcome to your opinion, but I'm just glad the rest of the world don't agree.
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| Quote: SuperGeoff "1. I agree but the Shay is only a very small portion of the problem
2. What money have Reactiv put into the ground? Only money they've put in is an attempt to keep you solvent.
3. What are they supposed to say about Town? "Thanks for making us realise the legal barriers that we'd torn down"?
4. I read this to be in terms of sponsorship and grants. The Football Foundation would be a very good possibility for this.'"
1. The Shays problems were what gave life to the idea of selling it in the first place and are still very much alive, the other problem areas will need to be addressed for what thay are and are not part of the debate.
2. The councils statement was addressed to an open audience, all people of calderdale and not to just the sporting clubs.
Yet they chose to thank Reactiv, the leadership and owners of the rugby club for support.
They chose to say and thank their Town counterparts for nothing.
3. Town as the leadership did not make the councilors aware of anything, legal or otherwise and said little to nothing.
It was a few supporters which choose to call themselves TOWN as if they represented the entire fan base and club and the entire rate paying population of calderdale as well.
This self appointed group actually think they have pulled of the legal coup of the century when they have probably left they Shay to remain unfinnished if unsold and devalued it if it is sold!!
The legalities of any sale would have had to have been in place anyway.
4. You read it that way with no substance or insight into what they meant because of your viewpoint, it's known as you only read or see what you want to read or see.
The real contradiction is, your views of how crooked and incompetent these same councilors are have been well published.
How come you trust and accept what they are saying now?
Question is.
Do really think the Shay won't be sold to the highest bidder whoever that may be sometime in the future when the funds run out again??
If the sale of the Shay is now off the table for good then nothing for you to worry about and no point flogging a dead horse so rest easy.
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| Quote: SuperGeoff "And without the work of the town fans the ground would have been put into an uncertain future. I'm ure that isn't what you want is it?
If you want to watch a team full of players who give 100% to the cause and aren't overpaid by a club who are run in profit then you'd love FC Halifax Town.
I for one am glad that the rest of the world doesn't share your view, hence why football is a sport played all over the world by people of all races.'"
Can I say and nobody has raised this before but the reason Town are 'in profit' is all down to having a Board that are tipping money in namely Bobby Ham and David Bosomworth.
Now come on Big Gob (Super Geoff) you happy that a couple of businessman are running FC Halifax Town and the club due to its low crowds are totally reliant on them like Halifax RLFC are with Tony Abbott????
Hypocrites the lot of you, slagging off a guy with money from fans of a club run by a couple of guys with money.
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