No they didnt, they just employed poor coaches, they spent just as much, if not more than everybody else, now I'm not suggesting Karl isnt a good coach, he is, but nobody gets it right all the time

Hey I remember losing at Swinton, London Skolars, coming away from "victory park" Chorley after a very narrow win! We've seen the brown end of things for longer than I care to remember. Apart from the 70's purple patch, other than the odd flirtation with the cup, times have been thin or thinner!!

This might not last forever. But I'll enjoy it while it does,

Hats off to Fev - speaking to rugby fans at work - they think that the Championship is brilliant especially when they compare the likes of Fax, Fev, Leigh and Sheffield to the lower teams in SL.

I think the acid test will be the announcement of season ticket prices. Particularly if there is an early bird offer.

No signing by then of a quality halfback ( for gods sake no more forwards) and I think the board would be entitled to have started asking pertinent questions. That is the time when the coach can have a very dramatic influence on our business income stream from now to Xmas.

If the rumours are to be believed, I'm not fussed at all that Andy Ellis has signed for Fev because some of the figures being bandied around will surely have the RFL questioning how so many players can fit within a £300K cap ( see what i did there ? ). Maybe mr probiz has had the nod of approval like mr stobart got at Widnes a few year ago, who knows ? Any single player is just one injury away from a disastrous season's planning by his team's backroom staff anyway as most of us have witnessed over the years.
I don't see how the prize money available at this second-tier of RL parallels with some clubs' spending, I really am at a loss at it all somehow I just don't get it.
In the case of Sheffield Eagles by contrast, I'm gonna have to bite the bullet & applaud them for reaching the GF for the second season in succession, this year playing all their games away from home, Leigh on a thursday especially a massive effort, yet they produce very little in the way of gate receipts season after season yet their coach can manage to get his lads up for the contest at the vital stage of the season on what we are lead to believe a much inferior budget.
So, I ask the question: Is it really all about money, or is desire & determination a bigger influence on players & staff around them ?


Some people might not like my views & I never accept that players don't go out there to win every contact, every tackle, every match, but why are some teams much better at it than others ?

Unless a team, or maybe more than one can get promoted to the SL by whatever means then I feel it's simply a weekend hobby for us all below SL nowadays. Powell yet again has been making the right noises about Fev & Eagles in yesterday's trade papers about those two clubs' merits with regards to SL in the future, I'm beginning to believe Fev have been given the nod.

It's the best kept secret going if that's the case Col!

You took your time !!!


You been busy all morning pal or what ?

aye Colin, every now and then the NHS require me to justify my existence for some horrible reason!
Just booked monday to a) nurse the hangover b)get used to the titration of anti-depressants c) Recover from cardiac irregularities cos of more daft comments assuming Fev have got the nod for SL!!!!

Are you doing that Prog do in Rovrum?

He has a point about Mr probiz. Why ditch all his sl connections.

They haven't got Mark Campbell as chairman Derek!!

Let's be honest with each other, he's not the only one to walk out on Cas this year LOL

and some of those that are still there they don't want!!!

Is that the story they are telling people?