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| Could have sworn Leigh beat Salford yesterday
So much for status quo
We weren't far off today, think 38-30 would have been a more fair result.
We were missing quite a few players today and hopefully we'll keep improving. The middle 8's will be tough but not a forgone conclusion at all.
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Could have sworn Leigh beat Salford yesterday
Read it back - I did mention Leigh winning!
It's good you think the middle 8 may be competitive, although I think the better competition in SL will mean the SL clubs will be in a higher gear by then.
Do you know how the funding works next season - less, more or the same? That will be the real test of the RFL's desire to have promotion. Good luck for the rest of the season and in the Middle 8s - I doubt it will be troubling us!
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| Full Time Championship teams will compete. PT championship teams will be beaten comfortably. But if 2 teams a year can chance their arm and unhinge a SL club from their previously guaranteed SL place then that's good. It's what the game needs - a shake up.
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| I think Leigh will be good enough to prove themselves in the middle 8, most likely at the expense of my club on current form I also think Bradford are in with a shout too but they are maybe going to finish 5th in the middle 8.
I agree that the PT teams will struggle with the intensity. Over this weekend I attended the Wakefield v Halifax match and Sheffield v Hull FC. Of course I watched the match on TV on Saturday too.
I think Fax showed a lot of enthusiasm on Friday. I do however think fitness and a little bit of difference in skill made the difference.
I wish you well though, you have a great bunch of supporters and that is the best vocal atmosphere from away fans I've heard for a while (although I guess the roof helped too).
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| Quote: freddies wig "With even the iconic Bulls and a good looking Eagles side being comfortably beaten the middle 8s are not looking good for the championship. (Super Leigh aside of course!)
Seems the SL status quo is just as likely to kept under this system as licensing.
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No - this is worse. Somebody would've been up in 2015 under licensing - probably Leigh - instead of playing for a place in a league to play in another league for a place in $uperleague in 2016. And they would have had three years in $uperleague instead of having to go through the whole Middle Eight Process again at the end of the 2016 season.
I don't see the attraction of Twelves and Eights. I suppose it's today's "I-want-it-all-and-I-want-it-now" attitude to life. Nobody's prepared to work for owt these days.
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| Don't get the reference to hard work. Surely it's harder to keep a club running, and enthusiasm as a supporter if there's a closed door to progression.
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| It wasn't closed.
The downside was you could only go up every third year.
The upside was that you had three years to consolidate before you came down.
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| Widnes v Batley
Leeds v Giants
Hull FC v Castleford
Wigan v Hull KR
Catalan v Featherstone
Saints v York
Wakefield v Leigh
Dewsbury v Wire
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| Quote: griff1998 "It wasn't closed.
The downside was you could only go up every third year.
The upside was that you had three years to consolidate before you came down.'"
Upside for clubs like Bradford was that you could royally screw up without being kicked out although a second time in administration was a bridge too far. No SL club can now rest at the foot of SL and not give a damn. The pressure is on. That's sport for ya!!
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| Quote: griff1998 "No - this is worse. Somebody would've been up in 2015 under licensing - probably Leigh - instead of playing for a place in a league to play in another league for a place in $uperleague in 2016. And they would have had three years in $uperleague instead of having to go through the whole Middle Eight Process again at the end of the 2016 season.
I don't see the attraction of Twelves and Eights. I suppose it's today's "I-want-it-all-and-I-want-it-now" attitude to life. Nobody's prepared to work for owt these days.
You are wrong whilst its going to be tough for a Championship club to get into SL in the middle eights at least they have a chance and if it does go the way you think their is always going to be that 4th v 5th game which as a one off gives one Championship team a great chance look at the Leigh v Salford Cup game!
You seem to forget that the Franchise system was a bent system decided entirely at the whim of a few at the RFL. They chose who they wanted by whatever means they decided it was a cartel and stank of favouritism - remember Crusaders who had illegal Aussie players the RFL decided to ignore until it all blew up in their face???
Ask yourself this, do you want to be at the mercy of the Fat Controller to get into SL or through a system that whilst its not perfect at least gives you the chance ON THE PITCH!
Maybe you are happy as you are an 'expansion' club you get extra ticks cos they like you?
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| Like it or not, we're stuck with more "country mile" rugby for the time being.
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| Quote: griff1998 "Like it or not, we're stuck with more "country mile" rugby for the time being.'"
Thoughts for Sunday Griff ?
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| There are twelve teams in Super League. Each are allowed five imports. That means there are a potential of 60 overseas players starting each week. Reduce this number (and the number in the Championship) and this will start to reduce the gap as each teams have to develop talent and narrow the gap on the pitch between squads. An old hobby horse of mine but one I still believe in.
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| Quote: mr t hall "Thoughts for Sunday Griff ?'"
We need to win to get back on track.
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| Quote: Howardposner "There are twelve teams in Super League. Each are allowed five imports. That means there are a potential of 60 overseas players starting each week. Reduce this number (and the number in the Championship) and this will start to reduce the gap as each teams have to develop talent and narrow the gap on the pitch between squads. An old hobby horse of mine but one I still believe in.'"
I don't understand this theory.
Some clubs will be better at developing talent than others. Just like some clubs are better at recruiting overseas players than others. The best junior talent will continue to be attracted to the clubs with more money. As they are now.
I appreciate the need to improve the UK player pool - but as a way of equalizing the competition ? Pie in the sky.
And I'm a firm believer in the concept of pies.
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