Where is the meltdown? I think everything that has been mentioned or asked are legitimate questions that should be being asked by anyone who has anything invested in the club. Which games was Maizen moved out to the wing that stand out for you as examples? I agree about some of what you say about him but ask anyone to play a position they have not played a lot of and it would be unfair to expect them to excel.

I get the theory behind good attitude and keeping the dressing room but our performances this season don't seem to tie in with that. We have a big discipline problem that has been a feature of Grix's reign which we seem no closer to solving, we have a habit of starting games slow which Grix has called the players out on numerous times this season and again we have seemingly no soloution to this and that is despite having players with good attitudes and whom toe the line. If we are saying Grix has weeded out the bad attitude/lazy players then the players on the pitch for us can no longer be to blame can they and the problem must lie somewhere else?

What meltdown?

I was speaking to the guy who does a lot of the photography for fax on match days at the legends night , he said he wishes this forum was shut down as it’s toxic and brings no constructive criticism whatsoever and is basically a place for victor meldrews to get their moan out of the way . Seems this place has one foot in the grave ….

It's opinions though isn't it. I see lots of constructive comments on here.

Its an online version of what we used to talk about in pubs in the 80's & 90's.

People pay a lot of money to watch our club and they are entitled to their opinion(within reason) no matter how one eyed or bias it may be. People from the club can choose to read it or ignore it but at the end of the day those fans that are paying their money through the gate are also helping to pay their wages.

I think the discipline issue hasn’t been solved because the players causing it seem undroppable , I can only imagine their stats are off the charts or Grix is guilty of rose tinted glasses as regards the originals , ie tangata ( the main protagonist in this imo )fairbank , kavanagh and larroyer , I’d like to see the stats on their collective discipline . I appreciate their aggressive nature is necessary but for me they often get the balance wrong , lannon for me is a perfect example of someone who has the balance right ( runs hard tackles hard gets onside ptb correctly doesn’t chirp at the ref and no brainfarts) the players I’ve mentioned are good players but can’t be but in the same bracket.

Aye, that's about right regarding discipline although Kav isn't too bad. Lannon though I thought was absolutely outstanding against Barrow and put in a performance of all round quality, a joy to watch from a forwards point of view. Anyroad, time for off. York here we come. Up The Fax!

Did someone change the title of this thread. Not much said about the upcoming game just lots about how bad some of our players and coach are.

The coaches watch the game and replays but also rely on stats which are not made public and should not be.
Who knows why Maizen has been dropped this week. Probably just Grix and Maizen but there will be a reason.

Oops I went off subject





So come on , less slanging and more support.



Fax to win by 12.

Don't get why some folk are getting their knickers in a twist about slagging off the players. All in all just "observations" as far as I can see as to why Maizen, for example, might have been shipped out. Quite a tame message board imo. You should read the likes of the whinos BB after they lost at Wakefield, now that was REALLY nasty!

Oh, and re today's match at York. We're playing some good attacking stuff at the mo and AOB has made a big difference. York have a couple of key players back in Antrobus and Glover who missed Haven, but feel very confident even tho' it will be tough. York 12 Fax 28.

Yeah makes me laugh on Facebook where they won't have anything bad said about anyone but its very rare you will see personal attacks and more just comments on performance which for athletes in the public eye is going to happen and whether they like it or not. We seem a very polarised fanbase, it seems when reading posts people either think Grix should be sacked immediatley as we are massively underperforming or you have the ones who think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread and think that he is over achieving because somebody told them we have the 13th best budget in the league.

in his interview simon grix said had injuries from the last game but was not going to say who / what in the interview.
the DR rocks up for a reason?

Time to go Grix. The guy clearly isn't a COACH.