Taken from the examiner today... bit.ly/18ZN51I

Taken from the examiner today... bit.ly/18ZN51I

Pretty much agree with everything in that article.

Don't agree on the Trust part, would have to say Why?
To recover the full costs is unrealistic, as much money as they can get and no more public money spent on it sounds fair enough to me. Angle it on public savings and money in the bank and i'm sure depending on who you talk to a picture can be painted different people will appreciate.
The rest of it seems common sense.

If it is a trust, where does the money come from?

Did the Council ever recover the full costs for running Halifax Town a few years ago when they ran the club? Did they not sell the club for 1 Pound? Why should The Shay be any different?

I gather the trust would consist of representatives
From both clubs, the council and probably a couple co opted in(maybe TA).

Money would come from the clubs rent, five a side pitch and car park(that brings in 80k a year). Allowing tony Abbott to lease the annexe will bring in income. And now that the east stand is complete a major money sponsorship and renaming of the stadium is probably a lot more achievable.

The old sst never made a loss, it just never made enough money to raise the £5 million to finish the east stand. We have the east stand now. We just need some expertise in selling the corporate/offices side of the stadium.

A few years ago... You mean a few decades ago.

The car park brings in 80k a year?
From whom, never seen a car park attendant there when it is full every day!

Think what you are saying that things will go on as the same, but with Mr Abbott leasing the annex, and been co opted on to the board.
Perhaps Mr Abbott has the "expertise" in selling the corporate/offices side of the stadium.

You seem to suggest that Mr Abbott should be the driving force of the "New Shay"

The topic of The Shay was mentioned at a Council Meeting this week and it looks like the Anti Fax Brigade are not happy. One of the tools who went mentioned the following was discussed-

No mention of the six member cabinet but a vague mention of full council approval reviewing the bid for the first question. For the second question we were told £5.8m had been invested on the Shay, and £3.5 of that money was raised by "prudential borrowing," of which a lot is still to be paid after the council paying it back in installments from 2009/10 and onwards. So what I gather is that if the Shay were sold for £1.9m, then the council would still be in the red for a number of years...But towards the end of the hour a councillor stood up and went through a long monologue that was forced to be cut short by 7pm on the dot. He told the room that he wasn't sure where the "18 months ago" came from with regards to Abbott's bid. Apparently the council had an letter containing the bid hand-delivered on 2nd August 2013 which was opened three days later, representing Abbott's "final bid," which was taken to David Bosomworth soon later. But the councillor alleged that Abbott was there for talks 18 months ago, however these talks were on the subject of moving his offices to the Shay, creating 300/400 jobs there, then later talk from Abbott about doing up and running the south corner of the East Stand. Plans were brewing for him including a children's nursery in there(!), and at the same time Abbott endeavoured to sponsor any of our stands/the Shay itself, which as we can see now didn't come through. The councillor also noted however, that all Abbott's drawn out propositions managed to stretch across three paragraphs on one A4 paper....A councillor from the back then added a bit of background to Tony Abbott before the whole meeting went off on one about this year's Yorkshire in Bloom contests. He mentioned that Abbott married a northern woman and they started going to Siddal, where his son developed an interest in rugby and then got a season ticket at Town, mentioning Abbott's Tottenham relationship. He then of course moved into HRLFC.

Well done Mr Abbott for calling one of them a "Cock" on twitter after one of the Anti Fax Brigade was winding him up on twitter. The Anti Fax Brigade seem happy to go to any lengths to ruin peoples reputations and Bubba seems quite happy to allow such things to be discussed.

The Council never ran either club so there's no money to recoup. But don't let simple well known facts stop you from being an idiot

Be nice to discuss without resorting to unpleasentnes

Clearly you know nothing about your football club as Calderdale Council did actually run the club for 4 years between 1987 and 1991. The taking over of the club was agreed and was passed by just a majority of one vote. It was the idea of Councillor David Helliwell. Mr Helliwell came out with such things as "We seek not to make a loss, but if we do, then its underwritten like any other council service which makes a loss" For more info click here
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I look forward to your apology

Thank you for pointing out my unpleasantness but I was responding to a lie which surely is more unpleasant?Therefore, I respectably ask you to quote the post I was replying to and ask them not to resort to unpleasantness.

But that's not going to happen because the post I responded to was anti-football and neither side (football or rugby) want the truth getting in the way of them being complete and utter idiots trying to out point score each other.

I'm not attempting to gain any moral high ground, I just despair at the attitudes of both set of fans. Both need each other to make The Shay viable but are unwilling to accept that so we go no further forward.

Please show me where it was a lie what I put. I have shown you my evidence to show that Calderdale Council did run the football club and it cost the Tax payers money. Whether my post was anti football or not its still the truth. I have no time for football in general as for me its overhyped and boring. I have even less time for Halifax Town and especially the fans and the way Mr Abbott and the club in general is treated by such people is shocking. If you dont like what I put thats your problem.