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Well done Widnes eusa_clap.gif

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It STINKS.

Who cares whether what we do or don't have, can or cannot support? Champions should be promoted into the league above as is the case with just about every other sport on the planet. Had that been the case, SL would have had the Cumbrian team they wanted in Barrow.

The improved income that comes with being in SL (whether we survive as a basement club or not), woukd ensure we have a good chance and the support would come back.

Be bold. Why roll over and accept Widnes going up despite absolutely ZERO on field success of late.

We cannot sit back and accept this. Why is there not a facebook page or some kind of alternative movement against all this pathetic elitist nonesense? icon_frustrated.gif

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Quote: Encouraged "It STINKS.

Who cares whether what we do or don't have, can or cannot support? Champions should be promoted into the league above as is the case with just about every other sport on the planet. Had that been the case, SL would have had the Cumbrian team they wanted in Barrow.

The improved income that comes with being in SL (whether we survive as a basement club or not), woukd ensure we have a good chance and the support would come back.

Be bold. Why roll over and accept Widnes going up despite absolutely ZERO on field success of late.

We cannot sit back and accept this. Why is there not a facebook page or some kind of alternative movement against all this pathetic elitist nonesense?
Two Northern Rail finals in a row. icon_thumb.gif

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nothing ventured nothing gained,

Is it a surprise to see faces reappearing at the clubwho had disappeared previously - some people at the club think we have as good a chance as any one else in our application.

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "Two Northern Rail finals in a row.
No don't let facts get in the way of things! From some comments you'd think we hadn't made playoffs last two seasons either, never mind the fact with injuries we had to play about 40 players this season! Yes it's nit been great but could of been worse easily! The RFL clearly said on pitch performances are not the be all and end all, far from it in fact and it's not our fault other clubs choose to ignore that!

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Quote: J20 "No don't let facts get in the way of things! From some comments you'd think we hadn't made playoffs last two seasons either, never mind the fact with injuries we had to play about 40 players this season! Yes it's nit been great but could of been worse easily! The RFL clearly said on pitch performances are not the be all and end all, far from it in fact and it's not our fault other clubs choose to ignore that!'"


Dont you moan to us about injuries we was ravaged by injuries all season it got so bad at one point towards the end that Matt had to call off training some weeks which makes our Grand final victory even more remarkable.

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Quote: J20 "No don't let facts get in the way of things! From some comments you'd think we hadn't made playoffs last two seasons either, never mind the fact with injuries we had to play about 40 players this season! Yes it's nit been great but could of been worse easily! The RFL clearly said on pitch performances are not the be all and end all, far from it in fact and it's not our fault other clubs choose to ignore that!'"

with some of the teams in SL they have to say on pitch performance is not be all n end all as well as off the pitch too. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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I'd kick Cas, Salford and Wakefield out, but they wont, at least Saints are ground sharing.

www.pontefractandcastlefordexpre ... _1_1855933

Wont be ready for years, and bulding houses next a chemical plant? hmmmm! well see. Questions may be asked by higher powers.

The TV money alone from SL would help us build a side, we should have been better prepared in truth.
I'd kick Cas, Salford and Wakefield out, but they wont, at least Saints are ground sharing.

www.pontefractandcastlefordexpre ... _1_1855933

Wont be ready for years, and bulding houses next a chemical plant? hmmmm! well see. Questions may be asked by higher powers.

The TV money alone from SL would help us build a side, we should have been better prepared in truth.


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Quote: Encouraged "It STINKS.

Who cares whether what we do or don't have, can or cannot support? Champions should be promoted into the league above as is the case with just about every other sport on the planet. Had that been the case, SL would have had the Cumbrian team they wanted in Barrow.

The improved income that comes with being in SL (whether we survive as a basement club or not), woukd ensure we have a good chance and the support would come back.

Be bold. Why roll over and accept Widnes going up despite absolutely ZERO on field success of late.

We cannot sit back and accept this. Why is there not a facebook page or some kind of alternative movement against all this pathetic elitist nonesense?
Start one, i agree, the 3 year licence is intended to allow stability and development, we would develop quicker in the SL with all the trappings. When you consider a Leeds home game generates more cash than winning the Championship GF, its all about ambition. Be bold.

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Quote: Forever Blue and white "Dont you moan to us about injuries we was ravaged by injuries all season it got so bad at one point towards the end that Matt had to call off training some weeks which makes our Grand final victory even more remarkable.'"


Well 17 out for one game is a little ridiculous would you not say and if not for our academy what would we have done? Relate that too other clubs and how could anyone else stand up in SL?

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So, you are saying that Widnes fielded an academy side for a first team game?

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Quote: Tortured Soul "So, you are saying that Widnes fielded an academy side for a first team game?'"


Batley away we had 17 first team players unavailable for selection so had to dig early into academies to find players... What would Halifax had done whilst still fulfilling all fixtures? Bare in mind Barrow lost about 8 and cancelled reserve side!

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Quote: J20 "No don't let facts get in the way of things! From some comments you'd think we hadn't made playoffs last two seasons either, never mind the fact with injuries we had to play about 40 players this season! Yes it's nit been great but could of been worse easily! The RFL clearly said on pitch performances are not the be all and end all, far from it in fact and it's not our fault other clubs choose to ignore that!'"


Sad way for a sport to go. Will RL become as fake as WWE? Your post sums up what is wrong with our game. Franchises are supposed to bring financial stability to the game. I have seen nothing to suggest that it's working - from SL down to the Championships. (I appreciate it's early doors but the signs aint good). All we have done is make the SL an elitist body. Quite ironic given the way our game came into being.

In my little world though, ticked boxes can NEVER surpass a Championship trophy.

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I think everyone knows that Widnes are going up even though they seem to be a mid table team.

What all championship clubs need to do is cut there first team wage bills(which ou seem to be doing) and spend more on the reserves and youth set up to even get a sniff of super league. I know Widnes have done this.

Fev have been allowed to set an 18s side to play with the S/L sides next season as i believe Widnes have been doing this season and done very well indeed. The problem is that the S/L 18s get 100 000 to fund there sides but fev are not allowed the money as there first team are not in S/L.

If the RFL want this country to to bring the youth through they should help championship sides set up these teams from 15s-21s by funding them as i believe a youngster has more chance of breaking into the first teams in the championship than s/l as Zak Hardacre did for us this season and the clubs also need some protection from the big clubs taking them away (Zac going to Warrington ? ). If this was in place the championship clubs could spend some of there money on other things and become stronger as a club ready for the move up if they were accepted.

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I think Fax should go for it but we still fall short in a couple of places but we have made improved from when we put our 1st super league bid in for 2009 so lets make the same steps forward for the next round for 2015 and we should stand a good chance in that 1. main priority as got to be to sort out the Youth development but the fact this is not funded by the RFL outside super league stinks.

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