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Robin , go for a walk , get in the garden , go and kick somebodys cat , paint the front room , anything other than keep trying to make sense of what happened the other night icon_wink.gif

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aye I know steve, it's making me head hurt!!!
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Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "I don't disagree with any of the above. You are most correct and even the most tunnel visioned fev fan/club employee can see that. But I've read your whole post and nowhere in it do I see any examination of fans of your own club.

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Try looking at things a little differently Robin. IF, so many 'Fax fans weren't "staying away" and our travelling numbers had been greater on thursday night at your home ground, I suspect the problems would have been multiplied. As I entered the ground with my good buddy Mark who I'd met in the Top house earlier ( and just missed you, apparently ) I remarked, crikey, poor turn out again from our lot. A steward actually approached me when he saw us stood chatting with some other Fev fans and asked me to go to the other end of the ground, that's which way Fax would be " ahem, attacking" for the first half. We both laughed and replied we'd be standing together next to the Lagoon bar for the first half at least.
Going back to my point, the meagre turnout speaks volumes to me, but at least we didn't have anyone who were looking for trouble. I can say with all honesty, all I saw were the Fax fans being jubilant at the end of the game and until being put under severe pressure by around 30 -40 yobs who were intent on going home after they'd had their fix of aggro. I saw things that sickened me, I heard some of your stewards making ridiculos statements to some innocent speccies like myself and if you's be so kind to play your part in "shopping" guilty parties, would you mind giving me the person's name who I should contact at Fev Rovers, cos I intend telephoning your club with my complaints early next week as my shift work suits ( I did a 12 hour day shift friday that's why I didn't react immediately FYI . It's OK all of us giving our opinions on a messageboard, but I'm prepared to tell your club officials about the behaviour of some of your stewards & give descriptions of at least one of them. I've already fielded a message from a member of the press who knows me about comments I've posted on the internet with regards to me intimating that I don't intend going back to your ground in the future. I sincerely hope that my mind is changed in the not too distant future, I can just see us having to travel there in the play-offs, but we'll be fine as long as we go to golden point & a strong ref turns up to stop fatty Tonka & Dickens getting away with lying on at every tackle they're involved in.
As a final point. Those young lads in Halifax shirts who did fall for the bait, I don't blame them for sticking up for themselves, some of them took a beating for their bravery but some of them were hit randomly from behind, I saw one lad kicked in the back down the terracing with no reason at all. If I'd have taken a smack for nothing, I'm afraid I might have reacted in the same way, who knows if it's "easier to walk away" ?
Can you answer me why there were no police on duty before & during the game ?

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Quote: halifaxjohn "As we left the ground, we drove along Post Office Rd, the trouble started as many people in dark blue shirts were chasing people in lighter blue shirts.
At the same time many people who had obviously not been to the game were walking towards the ground hurling insults at us.
As one fan in a dark blue shirt shouted at us "Get out and i'll rip your fu**ing head off" I wound down the window and asked the policeman standing next to him what he was going to do? He just ignored me.
At that time I said to the rest of us in the car, "I have a horrible feeling that the only people who will be arrested will be the one's in the lighter blue shirts"
Turning left at the end of Post Office Rd, we were spat at by a fan in a dark blue shirt. He then walked past us turned round and spat at us again.
Obviously myself my two sons and my grandson (6 years old) leaving a game were great threats and sitting in the car waiting to get out was extremely provocative.
I agree, we should not point the blame, and that's why I haven't said whether it was Featherstone fans threatening to rip our f**cking heads off or whether it was Featherstone fans who spat at us.
All I can is that they were wearing dark blue shirts, o'h with a "pirate" on the chest.


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Rotherham Fev Fan, you seem a well balanced person, your opinion on the above? Also your opinion on what further precations your club should take to avoid a repeat should we meet in the playoffs and indeed for any future games.

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Bacon butty done - off to Leeds to get measured for a suit - a big un!!!'"


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I'm a little confused, can anyone shed any light on any other teams that our troublesome faxfans have been aggressive and violent towards, because according to some people on here we also have an on going problem, I must somehow always manage to avoid that every week, strange that isn't it??? icon_stupid.gif

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Just about the right time to slip this in, as you will recall I posted what Dave thought earlier about not holding any malice against Fev.
This was posted on both the Fax forum AND the Fev forum before the game.
First to show what a guy Dave is and how he feels.
Second in an attempt to difuse any further trouble.
Third that if and when trouble started again he had distanced himself from any of it.

What happened the other night was INSPITE of how Dave felt and said and not BECAUSE of what had happened to him.

Even after the post had been made.

THE ONE THING THAT IS UNDENIABLE AND IS SOLEY DOWN TO A SMALL GROUP OF FEV SUPPORTERS IS THAT DURING THE GAME THEY WERE CLEARLY HEARD SAYING BY SUPPORTERS OF BOTH CLUBS.

"YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME WE KICKED OFF"

IMPLYING THAT THERE WOULD ME MORE OF THE SAME AS WHAT HAPPENED TO DAVE TO ANY OTHER FAX FAN THAT THEY CAME ACROSS.

The fact is that 30 to 40 so called Fev fans are perfectly happy that another rugby league supporter was put in a coma and will spend the rest of his life in a wheel chair and not content with that gloat about it and the next victim is only a matter of time if they get their way.

These individuals are the scum of the earth and are at the root of all the trouble past and present, if these people were not there then there would no more than the usual banter that goes on at every rugby game.

The damage they are doing will affect the Fev club more than any other as hundreds of paying spectators will not being going there ever again and who could honestly blame them.

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Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "

A 24 years Fax man has been arrested for assaulting an officer - no presumption of guilt here, a court will do that but even a 1st offence is likely to result in a stretch if found guilty.
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I wouldnt have so much faith in the British justice system if i were you. This is classed as a minor offence now adn will result in a slap on the wrists at the most but dont get me started on that. Its a respect problem and people like this show a lack of it.

As for the Halifax trouble makers, we did have a small element of young youths that were causing a bit of trouble over a season ago and i witnessed them abusing an away team coach of fans by Glynn Webb but they were teenagers who would have been ripped apart if the fans got off the coach and they were warned of this and `asked` to move along because they were giving us a bad name. Ive not seen anything since that though.

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precations your club should take to avoid a repeat should we meet in the playoffs and indeed for any future games.


i seem to remember the FA forcing football teams to play behind closed doors on occasion of crowd trouble

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Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "I don't disagree with any of the above. You are most correct and even the most tunnel visioned fev fan/club employee can see that. But I've read your whole post and n

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Not one to start getting in a tit for tat debate, but a good number more of Fev fans went on the pitch in the play-off semi of which some goading was involved and 600 Halifax just walked off and didn't react.

As for the player gesturing, I've never been bothered about it in any sport. I know people will argue the 'should be more professional' line, but if i'm calling someone 5 yards away a dickh**d, for example, and giving as good as I got, I'd feel a bit of a hypocritical tart if they then turned round and told me to feck off, it's just giving a bit back. Sportsmen are people just like the rest of us.

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Woiuld be interesting so see what the steward assessors wrote whilst talking to stewards on thursday and what they say about the stewarding of the situation at the end.

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Quote: halifaxjohn "icon_motor.gif

Rotherham Fev Fan, you seem a well balanced person, your opinion on the above? Also your opinion on what further precations your club should take to avoid a repeat should we meet in the playoffs and indeed for any future games.

Shocking. Those behaving in that manner should be ejected and never allowed near a ground again. I and every rightminded soul thinks the same way - or should be! What else do you want me to say???
What are your thoughts on the abuse I was personally subjected to as mentioned on a previous post??


Future games??? Dunno mate. I'm sick and tired of it all!

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Quote: faxcar "Just about the right time to slip this in, as you will recall I posted what Dave thought earlier about not holding any malice against Fev.
This was posted on both the Fax forum AND the Fev forum before the game.
First to show what a guy Dave is and how he feels.
Second in an attempt to difuse any further trouble.
Third that if and when trouble started again he had distanced himself from any of it.

What happened the other night was INSPITE of how Dave felt and said and not BECAUSE of what had happened to him.

Even after the post had been made.

THE ONE THING THAT IS UNDENIABLE AND IS SOLEY DOWN TO A SMALL GROUP OF FEV SUPPORTERS IS THAT DURING THE GAME THEY WERE CLEARLY HEARD SAYING BY SUPPORTERS OF BOTH CLUBS.

"YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME WE KICKED OFF"

IMPLYING THAT THERE WOULD ME MORE OF THE SAME AS WHAT HAPPENED TO DAVE TO ANY OTHER FAX FAN THAT THEY CAME ACROSS.

The fact is that 30 to 40 so called Fev fans are perfectly happy that another rugby league supporter was put in a coma and will spend the rest of his life in a wheel chair and not content with that gloat about it and the next victim is only a matter of time if they get their way.

These individuals are the scum of the earth and are at the root of all the trouble past and present, if these people were not there then there would no more than the usual banter that goes on at every rugby game.

The damage they are doing will affect the Fev club more than any other as hundreds of paying spectators will not being going there ever again and who could honestly blame them.'"

It's sickening Mart, it really is. I hope they are prosectuted, banned and put away if found guilty of assault!
It's sheeite. Our club has got to act - NOW - or we won't have a club. Folks will simply say "sod it" I'm not going anymore. Which is a right shi_tter for a club with the history that Fev has.

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Quote: tommy "Not one to start getting in a tit for tat debate, but a good number more of Fev fans went on the pitch in the play-off semi of which some goading was involved and 600 Halifax just walked off and didn't react.

As for the player gesturing, I've never been bothered about it in any sport. I know people will argue the 'should be more professional' line, but if i'm calling someone 5 yards away a dickh**d, for example, and giving as good as I got, I'd feel a bit of a hypocritical tart if they then turned round and told me to feck off, it's just giving a bit back. Sportsmen are people just like the rest of us.'"

Tommy mate, it happens. It doesn't bother me one bit - but then I'm not one to respond by kicking the living sheeite out of someone! Given the recent history of Fev v Fax games - it wasn't a wise act was it???

Tit for tat?? No owd cock. We have the overwhelming problem. It could threaten the very existence of our club if not sorted.
I acknowledge that - I said so repeatedly time and time again.
What I can't get my head round is the willingness to villify Fev fans actions (and again, I accept that villification is right), but yet the actions of a few Fax fans are excused?????
The game needs ridding of it's sheeite mate.

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where were the police?

Amazing how Fev fans were freely permitted to approach fax fans straight outside ground..... was nothing learn't from Warrington!

Needs to be immediate investigation by RFL before someone else is seriously injured.

Fev away is now pencilled off my weekend rugby trips.

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