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Quote: littlerich "That's a load of crap. A P & L will show rental income. If someone doesn't pay that rental income it stays on the BALANCE SHEET under debtors. You clearly don't understand how financial accounts work.'"


Here you go Mr Accountant.



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Those are Janet & John accounts for lay readers. Those won't be the official published accounts to companies house.

Deary me.

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And, are those cash accounts or accounts made up on the accruals basis?

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It does detail the money spent on the Shay though, does it not?

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Quote: littlerich "And, are those cash accounts or accounts made up on the accruals basis?'"

Speak to the council, they provided the figures.

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Would need to know if they've used cash accounting or accruals accounting. Using that table, if it's cash accounting then the P&L as you described is accurate. If it's accruals accounting your statement is incorrect.

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In which case speak to the Council. The club rents are sectioned in the table, so make of that what you will.

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Quote: SuperGeoff "The Shay is more than fit for purpose. Biggest ground in non-league football and I believe it hosted the NR Cup final this year as well as the Rugby World Cup and the possibilty for and England C game there.'"


And therein lies the solution. It fit for purpose, but under council hands that will slowly diminish as cuts and more cuts continue to hit. The council will only continue to maintain the two sides that open regularly for both clubs and the stadium will soon be unavailable for anything but the regular football and rugby games.

The only way to maintain and improve is in private hands.

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Quote: littlerich "Would need to know if they've used cash accounting or accruals accounting. Using that table, if it's cash accounting then the P&L as you described is accurate. If it's accruals accounting your statement is incorrect.'"


My bank statement looks brilliant on the 20th by the following 19th it looks like sheite.
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Quote: spanishbob "And therein lies the solution. It fit for purpose, but under council hands that will slowly diminish as cuts and more cuts continue to hit. The council will only continue to maintain the two sides that open regularly for both clubs and the stadium will soon be unavailable for anything but the regular football and rugby games.

The only way to maintain and improve is in private hands.'"

It is the clubs decision to open as many stands as they feel fit. For Football we open the South Stand and East Stand, giving Section A to away fans. If the visiting side are expecting to bring more than 200 we put them in the Skircoat.

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I thought the 5 - a side made a load of money for the Shay ?

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Quote: SuperGeoff "The seat in the Skircoat are less than 15 years old, can't comment on the roof but the toilets have improved. Just ask the Grimsby and Wrexham fans who visited this season. The capacity of the North Stand was not reduced because of Health and Safety on the stand, simply the lack of toilets which has now been addressed. The town is far from a backwater, look at Rochdale if you want to know hat a backwater is like. The Broad Street Plaza and the train station have been hanged drastically over the last 5 years. I'm not quite sure what you want from the town? The Shay already has a cafe, and there are already a ridiculous number of gyms in the town centre.'"


A café at the Shay really where? Now you are an expert on the demand for gyms, blimey you really are the knowledgeable one you know everything so do you know the lottery numbers for Saturday then?
You must be Gavin Butler.

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Quote: Fax4Life "A café at the Shay really where? Now you are an expert on the demand for gyms, blimey you really are the knowledgeable one you know everything so do you know the lottery numbers for Saturday then?
You must be Gavin Butler.'"

On hunger hill, believe it or not it is called "The Shay Cafe". And as a member of one of the four gyms withing walking distance of the centre of town I can confirm the existing gyms are never full. Believe it or not there is such a thin as having friends, and my friends are at other gyms and they aren't full either. This smacks of the proposed addition of a bowling alley at Broad Street. Not needed.

And I believe Bubba already has an account on here? not sure why he'd need another. I suggest you google Super Geoffrey Horsfield.

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Quote: SuperGeoff "Believe it or not there is such a thin as having friends, and my friends are at other gyms and they aren't full either.
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You lost all your credibility there. No need to lie on here about having friends. Maybe you could make some at the Cafe Tony will open when he takes over the Shay. He might even provide a job for you.

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Quote: SuperGeoff "On hunger hill, believe it or not it is called "The Shay Cafe". And as a member of one of the four gyms withing walking distance of the centre of town I can confirm the existing gyms are never full. Believe it or not there is such a thin as having friends, and my friends are at other gyms and they aren't full either. This smacks of the proposed addition of a bowling alley at Broad Street. Not needed.

And I believe Bubba already has an account on here? not sure why he'd need another. I suggest you google Super Geoffrey Horsfield.'"


You are completely missing the point and either were not at the meeting or, like most of the FCHT fans present, did not do Mr. Abbott the courtesy of listening to him. The point of opening a cafe, gym and creche was primarily to cater for the 350 people who would be working at the Shay should his plans come to fruition. This in turn would plough money back into the Shay which, in case you missed this as well, would be run by a totally new company seperate from Reactiv Media with any profits going back into the Shay to eventually make it self-financing.

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