I have followed Fax since 1977, probably untill the end of last season only missing a handfull of games. After the debacle of super league lecences last year i have lost the desire to attend. I did not renew my season ticket and have struggled to get the desire to go. I have attended one game so far and i have a family match ticket in my cupboard at home that i won and still that hasnt encouraged me to get up and go. I think the only thing that will really work is sort out the people that are driving everyone away and that is the RFL board. Until that changes i think crowds will get lower not bigger. Don't know when i will be back myself but i do intend to force myself to go eventually

Totally agree ifcnige. I've followed fax for 25 years but I just don't feel the same about the game any more and last years debacle was the straw that broke the camels back. I know a fair few people who did go but since p & r was abolished don't go any more. At the moment there is no point to our league they say and I agree with them. Fans as well as teams need something to aim for - at the minute there is nothing. Yes the league is competitive and enjoyable to watch but that alone is not enough.

Ultimatly you cannot control the competition you are in, last year your application fell down quite simply because you could not provide guaranteed figures for income, there are only 2 ways you can change that, a single major backer or much larger fan base in the competition you are already in, funnily enough, if you get the second, the first will be much more likely to be attracted to the club, would Steve O Connor have considered Widnes if they had been pulling in a 1800/2000 average?



3500/4000 averages in the Championship would guarantee SL entry, it really is that simple, there is no ' logical ' reason that Championship attendances seem to top out at just over 2,000 , if you or your club just accept that ( which seems to be a common trait ) then you have no future outside the lower tier

I don't get this "nothing to play for" garbage. OK - yes - we'd all prefer the P&R option but anyone who was not moved by that 2010 finale is perhaps better off doing something else on Sunday anyway.



The game - the skills - the big hits and well worked tries - the nailbiting frustration that follows Fax everywhere. It's all still there for me. I will NEVER stop watching. But's that's my own personal feeling - everyone's different aren't they?



We are all agreed though - the RFL are slowly killing this great game that exists below the elitist greedy Super (is that the right word?) League. Shame on them.

Nothing to play for? How about the Northern Rail Final? How about top spot and the Championship Final? How about going as far as we can in the Challenge Cup?

Against Featherstone, Dewsbury and Sheffield we played superb Rugby far better (in my hunble opinion) than the St Helens Wigan game last week. This League is very competative and confident as I am that we will win it, it will not be by many points.

As someone earlier said, keep winning and the crowds will increase.

Well they were wrong

I agree - takes more than just a winning team to bring people through the gate. Does help though.

Until the likes of Wood and Rimmer go and many changes are made about how the game is run then many will stay away and a number will slowly lose interest and join them. I dont really know what more a club like Fev, Leigh or Fax can do when we are constantly being held back and treated like dirt compared to French and expansion sides. The club has made many mistakes in the past and it has over the past couple of years tried to sort them out. Anything is worth trying in my book but I feel strongly that the way to bring the crowds back is out of the control of the club sadly.

By gum, wish I was as clever as you.

I have watched Fax since 1967-man and boy- and just cannot see where the game is going to end up down the line under this current RFL governance and elitist regime. They are supposed to be responsible for the whole game, its development, and crowd development at all levels but whilst the super duper league farce brings in the crowds the teams below are paying for that with dwindling crowds into the hundreds for heartland and founder member clubs. Until supporters have the excitement of promotion and relegation then there is no point spending hard earned money to watch a nothing game(s). How can we expect the cumbrian clubs to survive travelling all the way to Northampton to play in front of a handfull of people? No amount of creative marketing will increase crowds with a template like that.Work all season to be at the top/win grand final/ end up with no reward in ahighr league-restraint of trade for a player wanting to better his career!Denial of supporters old and new following a successful team!

Was it you that said it john?







You are correct, a winning team will increase crowds, problem is win too easy too often and people get bored, then when you lose, you lose the rest of the ones that starting coming because you were winning, it is your ' core ' support you need to increase, you do that by getting as many people as possible into the Shay as often as you can



What % of the population of Halifax have been in the Shay to watch you? , whatever it is , increase it

This is what the club should do.



Put all its players and admin staff up for candidacy at local elections. Get a majority on the council. Offer 50% discount on Council Tax in exchange for attendance to at least 90% of home matches. Get these people hooked on Fax like the good old eighties. Then run up a massive council debt (well if it's good enough for Gordon Brown at National Level, where's the foul?) and then lose all the seats at the next election and hey ho, back to square one but with a feverishly hooked 30,000 core home support.