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And Behold, a pale horse. And on his back his name was death. The weekend starts on a Monday.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_46669.jpg



Quote: mr t hall "There was a bluesox track issued on cd--anyone remember ?
it went na na na na na bluesox or similar.surprised it never
caught on

Like YOU do the bluesox tag!
I love every bit of history of my club.

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[color=#0000FF:3nk3l5d8]FCHT fans - saving the future of professional football and rugby league in Halifax[/color:3nk3l5d8]:



Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "Maybe you and your luddite friends are too stupid or thick to read and understand what many of us Fax fans post. I have never said TA should just take over the Shay. I have said certain conditions need to be met and that ensures the rugby club will never be forced to leave the shay against their will. I have said the Council is financially in a mess and needs to save money. '"


Stupid or thick? Don't they amount to the same thing? Oh the irony.

Certain conditions? Such as covenants that can be circumnavigated if necessary? Do you really think that if Tony's plans go pear shaped, or he loses interest, or he passes away, or his company has a change of leadership with a different vision, or he sells to any old random in future etc etc there would be no risk at all because of some convenants or conditions in the original purchase? Convenants such as that which was on Thrum Hall?

Conditions, restrictions, covenants etc mean nothing. By hook or by crook, Abbott or his successors or future owners would find a way if they so desired.

Were you at the public meeting with Abbott? If so you'll recall Abbott being asked to give a guarantee that if his plans go wrong, the staduim and the clubs will not be affected i.e. The Shay will always be a sports stadium and the club's will always be able to play there.

His reply (after a certain amount of spin and 10000000000% promises of his best endeavours) was "I can't give you a guarantee".

Surely if such restrictions were possible then, as the concerned tax payer you make out to be, you would rather The Shay be sold with the same restrictions but for the highest price legally possible (taking into account EU State Aid rules, for example)?

Why in 2005 when the Council wanted to sell The Shay were you marching with us against private ownership and demanding tax payer investment instead? All talk of any 'restrictions' you talk of were brushed aside as not worth the paper they're written on.

Hypocrisy. Pure and Simple. It is so obvious that the reason Fax fans are behind the bid is because it's Abbott. There is no other explanation.

Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "I requested under the Freedom of Info act the same rent question issue several weeks ago too. In the hope that I'd catch those Town numpties out.... Anyway it took a few weeks to get the necessary response but had it confirmed that we are in arrears on the rent and the amount was for period Sept 2012 - Oct 2013. Now it may be that we pay 12 months at a time but this needs putting to bed once and for all as its in the domain that we haven't paid our rent which is slightly worrying.....!'"


You are right to be worried. For a start, it wouldn't be called 'arrears' if you paid 12 months at a time and you were up to date.

Secondly, Abbott confirmed at the public meeting that the rent arrears were to be effectively 'tagged on' to the purchase of The Shay. Which is funny, because why would Halifax RLFC's rent be included in the negotiations for Reactiv to buy The Shay? After all, it's not Halifax RLFC who are buying The Shay is it?????? It's a separate issue isn't it?????

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The Shay will always be a sports stadium and the club's will always be able to play there. His reply (after a certain amount of spin and 10000000000% promises of his best endeavours) was "I can't give you a guarantee".

So you can trust the Council? Like the Council have never tried to sell the Shay and do deals? And is there ANY Guarentee that the Council will not sell the Shay to a developer in the future? I dont trust the Council anymore than I trust Mr Abbott. But I have said my opinions. You are too blind to understand them. You have said your piece, which is fine. Now bugger off as you neither have any interest in Fax or Rugby League. So why post on here?

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Quote: mr t hall "There was a bluesox track issued on cd--anyone remember ?
it went na na na na na bluesox or similar.surprised it never
caught on
I have that CD! It's called "War Chant" by Smug.

We don't view the Bluesox name or any of our history as an embarrassment. It was just a stupid idea by one man without consultation with the fans.

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Thanks FM--remember now ive got it somewhere too.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "rlhttp://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/crime/town-fans-charged-after-flare-thrown-at-mk-dons-cup-tie-1-6240686rl'"


Hmmm, "Vincent" Baines. Mr. V off the Shaymen.net site perhaps? Judging by his posts he does come over as that sort of lunatic. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Fax Machine "Hmmm, "Vincent" Baines. Mr. V off the Shaymen.net site perhaps? Judging by his posts he does come over as that sort of lunatic. Its not the same person i know them both.

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Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "So you can trust the Council? Like the Council have never tried to sell the Shay and do deals? And is there ANY Guarentee that the Council will not sell the Shay to a developer in the future? I dont trust the Council anymore than I trust Mr Abbott. '"


So you don't trust Abbott? Wise.

I agree that there are no guarantees either way. However in the hands of a private owner (especially with a mortgage) the risk is far greater as explained in my previous post. The council with it's varying members are bound by various legislation in relation to the sale of land and are answerable to the public and the electorate.

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Quote: mr t hall "Its not the same person i know them both.'"


,,,and you admit to it? You have my deepest sympathy. icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: mr t hall "There was a bluesox track issued on cd--anyone remember ?
it went na na na na na bluesox or similar.surprised it never
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Sadly I have it on CD

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Quote: Fax Machine "But you are just listening to the bile spewed out constantly by the FCHT maggots. By that I do not mean all FCHT fans but just the minority who post on Shaymen.net. Being a FCHT fan (as well as a Fax fan) you seem to give them more credence than the rest of us.

1. The accounts which keep being posted are up to November 2012, a year old.

2. Since then TA/Reactiv have invested £60,000 in December 2012 and a further £100,000 in July 2013.

3. The club , I believe, has since last year trimmed it's playing budget due to the current financial climate and the subsequent drop in attendances.

4. If you look at the total liabilities of the club and it's net worth for 2009 to 2012 you will see that the debt has actually gone down year by year, not by much I grant you, but I would be more concerned if it was increasing year on year.

5. I may be wrong but I think there may be more to the rent issue than meets the eye because, firstly, I can't see the club just not bothering to pay CMBC for such a long period of time and, secondly, I can't see CMBC letting them get away with it.

6. Yes, the club COULD now be further in the red. I doubt it myself but I concern myself more with the team's performance than the club's balance sheet which is down to the club's Directors and beyond my control.

I know that a number of FCHT fans would love to see Halifax RLFC go out of business but we've just celebrated our 140th Anniversary and I suspect we'll be around for a long time yet.'"


So you say the debt has gone down but also admit that Abbott has pumped money in? Perhaps that is why the debt has gone down?

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Quote: SuperGeoff "So you say the debt has gone down but also admit that Abbott has pumped money in? Perhaps that is why the debt has gone down?'"

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