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Quote: Pepe "No-one thinks we have “a God given right” to SL. But we can rightly say that we are likely to have the best all-round bid.

If you don't agree with that, then please tell me who else from the Championship would be likely to put in a better bid and claim that guarranteed licence for Championship club?


Finance/Sponsors
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Widnes are rightly so the stand out bid and are likely to get the nod but you never know with the RFL. It wouldnt surprise me if the fools put Toulouse in!

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: faxlad66 "Widnes are rightly so the stand out bid and are likely to get the nod but you never know with the RFL. It wouldnt surprise me if the fools put Toulouse in!'"


I totally agree.

No Widnes fan is stupid enough to ignore what’s happened in the past. We just don’t think it has anything to do with thinking that we have a [i“God given right”[/i to SL.

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Quote: Pepe "I totally agree.

No Widnes fan is stupid enough to ignore what’s happened in the past. We just don’t think it has anything to do with thinking that we have a [i“God given right”[/i to SL.'"


Banter aside, i dont think any level headed fan of any club truly assumes that they have a God given right to SL, people obviously get upset and frustrated as they want their respective teams to be successful and most of the source of frustration appears to be at Red hall IMO. Does make you wonder though if they actually believe that Crusaders and Quins are going to work...makes me laugh!

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I'm not suggesting the Attendance figure had been 'tampered' with because obviously i wasn't there or owt but if it was a genuine attendance then well done to Fax...........but , if the marketing team can get nearly 5,000 to this game why couldn't they do it for other games if it was so easy rather than being happy with 2/2,500 all season

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "I'm not suggesting the Attendance figure had been 'tampered' with because obviously i wasn't there or owt but if it was a genuine attendance then well done to Fax...........but , if the marketing team can get nearly 5,000 to this game why couldn't they do it for other games if it was so easy rather than being happy with 2/2,500 all season'"



No difference to Hudderfield sometimes getting big crowds...and then they dont.

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Quote: Waddy-Fax "

They feel they have a god given right to get in this time round, why, I for one can't see what makes them red hot to go up.'"



They even think that the Courier has been singing their praises

rlhttp://www.trustinwidnes.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID

However, they have failed to realise its just a letter that has been sent into the paper that Littlerich mentioned last week! d040.gif

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Cheers Clive, getting little obsessed now ain't we? Shame RL has come to this but bizarre people want to now pop at Widnes bid as we've covered all areas!

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Quote: J20 "Cheers Clive, getting little obsessed now ain't we? Shame RL has come to this but bizarre people want to now pop at Widnes bid as we've covered all areas!'"

of course...thats why we have a thread about three threads about more or less the same thing on our forum......oh hang on...no we dont...thats Widnes on their own "private" forum.

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: a.n Other "They even think that the Courier has been singing their praises

rlhttp://www.trustinwidnes.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID

However, they have failed to realise its just a letter that has been sent into the paper that Littlerich mentioned last week!

Yes, because one person posted this of the TIW board, probably in the mistaken belief it was a Journo, we all think that the Courier has been singing our praises.

There’s nothing like keeping things in perspective, is there? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "I'm not suggesting the Attendance figure had been 'tampered' with because obviously i wasn't there or owt but if it was a genuine attendance then well done to Fax...........but , if the marketing team can get nearly 5,000 to this game why couldn't they do it for other games if it was so easy rather than being happy with 2/2,500 all season'"



Who rattled your cage ?
If we had a university, maybe we could tamper ( as you call it ) with our gates more often.

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Quote: Viking John "Hardly squeaky bums and sour grapes. We can hit average attendance without freebies, you are hardly a threat to a Widnes Super League application.

[list[*You have a crumbling stadium[/*
[*No youth set up[/*
[*No reserve squad competing[/*
[*Poor attendances[/*
[*No finances[/*
[*All you have is a first team[/*[/list

Widnes on the other hand[*Have a top quality stadium that can host Super League Games & Challenge Cup Semi Finals[/*
[*Under 15 academy squad[/*
[*Under 16 academy squad[/*
[*Under 18 academy squad[/*
[*Under 21 academy squad[/*
[*Reserve squad[/*
[*Highest attendances in Championship[/*
[*Stong financial and business plan[/*[/list

It's all well and good you lot shouting about how you have ticked another box, but you are ticking the wrong kind of boxes if you want long term success and stability.

Leigh are the closest threat to Widnes' Super League application, but they fall short on a few key areas and won't be in this time round. I do see tem realistically in Super League in 2016.

I also hear people banging on about "We are a heartland team, we deserve to be there". Well if these so called ‘heartland’ clubs doesn't start to invest in heartland youth then there will be nothing left of the 'heartland'.

You can't just run a first team and no youth set-up and expect long term stability, it's madness! Bringing through top class British youth should be top priority for every club.

That's called having a modern, professional stadium. Still an amateur looking set up if people are handing over cash at a turnstile instead of a more controlled professional outlet via a ticket office. Even Whitehaven don't accept cash on the turnstiles, they have a hut outside the ground you have to buy your ticket from.

Yeah, only when there is a free ticket though

Look Mr Widnes PR man we all accept you are ahead of us and will probably get the SL Licence.
But all the above is down to one man = Steve O'Connor
Without his cash you would not be where you are now, look at your stadium and on your shirts it says what?
STOBBART

Like Salford (Jack Wilkinson) and Huddersfield (Ken Davy) the difference between those clubs and those like ours is men who love their club enough to pour a lot of their money in year after year.

Good luck to you as you will need it as Ken Davy has put millions into Huddersfield and won what so far? Nowt.

Wish we had one and am I jealous?
Yes, but its like comparing apples with pears as they say saying what you have and what we haven't, thing is we CAN'T AFFORD it okay?

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Quote: Waddy-Fax "Cant see what Widnes offer that Fax dont, why's everyone bleating on about them on here and Sky, it's only cos they spat their dummy out when declined the last round of franchising and kicked up a big fuss.'"


Wrong, Leigh spat their dummy not Widnes icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: Fax4Life "Look Mr Widnes PR man we all accept you are ahead of us and will probably get the SL Licence.
But all the above is down to one man

Wooooooooshhhh point missed there!

No-ones crticizing what Fax have achieved these past few years but when you try to compare the two bids you can't blame Widnes for having a backer and our bid stronger and doubt the RFL will go aw yea your right you come in with no money? Seem's a sense of injustice on here from Fax with RFL and tbh I aint sure why in terms of franchising!

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Quote: asterix "Wrong, Leigh spat their dummy not Widnes
same difference its Steve O'Connor's cash matey.

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Quote: Fax4Life "same difference its Steve O'Connor's cash matey.'"


Number one aim was to make club as self sufficient as possible and that's what he's doing! You know so when little 'errors' don't end up being a threat to clubs players wages? icon_rolleyes.gif

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