During the week the coach and players will go through the skill set moves with live drill plays and that’s where for example the play the balls and marker roles will be practiced, it’s efficient because when training is on a part time team basis and limited it covers both attack and D in one play.

During training they look pretty good fast and slick and the vast majority of the time their not not doing it, but for some reason it’s often not repeated on the pitch, the coach and the players have said it’s not what we’ve practised all week.

Genuine question how do you stop it, I don’t know, it’s not only a problem just at Fax.

It seems a few other decent coaches and players don’t know either, they can’t be doing it on purpose but still it regularly happens.

Just one example that could have turned out to be a real killer is LJ at Fev in the cup game, in the space of 5 minutes he wins us the game and then with just minutes remaining instead of taking his time on the first tackle of an exit set with no pressure doesn’t play the ball right and almost loses it

I mean if an experienced professional rugby player like him needs to be shown or told what to do I give up on making sense of it, no one’s perfect but never mind the season surely by this stage of his career he should know how to do the right decision making?

3 DR players. will just bring more in.

Sheffield, London, Batley , Widnes their heads went in a twenty minute spell after Keyes n walmsley were injured, even fev in the cup was a bit brain farty at the end . 2nd half at keighley which wasn’t aided by two sin binnings . Every time we get a lead rather than getting back into the arm wrestle and getting some territory and sapping the opponent’s energy we give a penalty away or drop the ball .

Particularly relevant as when momentum shifts in a game we don't have the go forward to re-establish control.This has been a feature of virtually every game this season,even in comfotable wins.

Walmsley back in the squad - hopefully this means his recovery is going well but I'd be surprised if he was risked. With Fairbank and Gannon out I'd go with Doro and Cole as their replacements, only other change being JWH at fullback.

Fax win if they get there heads right before the game. Partly up to grix in the match prep this week
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Mixed bag until 2 sloppy late tries goal line defence generally good - Barrow certainly had enough possession close to our line to test us. Attack wise the slickness we'd got used to last year seems have disappeared, some of our passing was woeful, a shocking pass to Gee leading to a mistake and Barrow's first try. Conversely Barrow were much slicker with the ball. We seem to be lacking in confidence with individuals trying to do their own thing, rather than sticking to a plan I'm sure they've been given. Still a big fan of Grix, but starting to wonder just how big a loss Finn has been especially for sorting our attacking plays. His new team going great in league 1 and had a fantastic result today thumping Widnes.

Another scratchy win and some soft tries towards the end leaving the game on a knife edge till the last play . Individuals are playing well during spells of the game but the team as a whole doesn’t seem fluid in their attack. Tom inman had a great game and injects more guile skill and urgency into our attack, woody is a handful , maizen shows glimpses but never seems to receive the right pass to put him in a hole and often has to create his own opportunities. Doro had an impact and Maher was a slight improvement on previous displays. McComb isn’t firing yet both in attack and defence. Fax are a frustrating side to watch at the moment, with some big games coming up the next few weeks are important in terms of where are season is heading.

Awful standard of game, Barrow came to niggle and it worked, we really didn't play well, and despite that the result really was never in doubt once we hit the front. I hear we might have a good forward signing up our sleeve but we desperatley need 2 centres and it stands out like a sore thumb week in week out.

We are not the team we were last season first half was OK and then we limped to win. I don’t know why we are playing like this when we have the same spine as last year. Keys missed 6 points when he would have nailed those kicks last year.

Agree we miss the defensive and distribution skills of both worthington and Arundel, maizen is doing ok but must admit McComb isn’t cutting it at centre this season, care to elaborate on the potential forward signing or is it just a rumour ? noticed a Salford second rower started following us on instagram but that doesn’t always mean anything.

Another scrappy error ridden display against a solid Barrow side who looked like they had done their homework and snuffed JWH out. Jouffret was fantastic at times but even he succumbed to one great play then one shocking bit. He seemed to be limping at times too, is he carrying a knock?
All our props did a good shift for once with Doro`s youthful enthusiasm helping the cause tough i think his tackling needs to be stronger. I thought Mcomb went ok, Plenty of yards and a sharp pass to free Salty. He isn`t the greatest defender but hangs on in there.
Inman looks better every game, we have a gudun there if we can keep him.

Can anyone explain to me how refs decide when it is a six again , just seems random to me. Some seemingly obvious never given others that make me wonder if I watch the same game.

5pm announcement today.

Ryan Lannon from Salford.