I dont have the Stats for the Widnes Game but in the 6 Matches since we have conceded 55 Pens & have been awarded 38

All spot on.

Bentleyman thank you for the info fax have been awarded more than I imagined. However that is still a 30% negative figure. Not good for defensive play. Also where they are conceded.

How have we got ourselves in the position of being a team clueless in attack, capable of conceding points from any part of the field, conceding penalty after penalty.
This is when Murrell is playing and when ever he leaves the field the performance level drops to junior rugby level.

I can accept losing after putting in a performance.

What I can’t accept is looking like losers after putting in a performance like that, “ again .”

I was there as a neutral yesterday.

The biggest difference in my opinion was that York ran on to the ball at pace.

Halifax on the other hand were completely static when they received the ball. They certainly need to think and act quicker.

I would be concerned at the lack of pace yesterday and how easily the York forwards especially Teanby dominated the game.

Your half backs were totally outplayed by Robinson and Cockayne yesterday.

Just read Marshall's post match speil.Basically he's no idea why it went wrong and has no answers.Really is time for a change.

Exactly ricardo and if it’s obvious to us and a neutral spectator what’s wrong but not to the coach I really do start to worry and despair.
I’ve said it time and time again about our pack, the second row usually put in a good shift.
The front row make no impact and yesterday we had the 2 starting props and 3 more on the bench.
Against Swinton it was only when it became desperado time and Simon Grix started to run the ball in hard in the last 10 minutes as a prop / forward should do that Fax got anything from the game.

Things I noticed yesterday.

1. Our passing is still poor and so slow, player has to either stop, jump or twist backwards to catch it.
2. No player seems to catch the ball running onto it.
3. We let teams up at the play the ball too quick.
4. We have 2 halfbacks who don't run.
5. A former winger outplayed our halfbacks.
6. Forwards just no oomph at all.
7. We get out enthused at everything.
8. Doesn't seem to be players running at angles giving the ball carrier options. When York had the ball there was players everywhere running giving the ball carrier options.
9. We are so predictable in attack. One up rugby or scoot or at best ball passed down the line with no 2nd phase coming in or creating options and hesitation in the defence.
10. We still think a 5 minute one man run-around is a good tactic, last seen in the 90's in the Workshops competition.
11. Maybe the advantages of Murrell don't outweigh the disadvantages now.
12. The pies were decent!

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I wasn’t there yesterday so cannot comment too much on the game although by the highlights some of the tries conceded looked woeful.

One massive thing that no one seems to be mentioning which is definitely contributing to our downfall - fitness.

We look unfit in all areas - cardvascular and muscular.

People talk of a high penalty count against us each game... why is that? Because we cannot get back onside, we’re losing the ruck, we’re tired and making mistakes.

We completed our sets well against Dewsbury which meant ultimately didn’t defend as much. Therefore masks the real problem.

The first season we had Andy Hollyhead (conditioner) we looked fit from the off.

Every season since that, we have got better as the season goes on... as we have got fitter.

Just a point, probably too late to start doing Shibden hills on a Tuesday evening now but I bet it would make a huge difference if we were fitter.

Thought York played well, as they have all season beating Leigh at home and Bradford away most people thought they were going to be easy beats.

You are right they played well and we have no devine right to win every game but given last season I would at least expect us to be competing with both York and Fev and not scraping home against two poor teams in Batley and Swinton.

SingaporeFax , might be the case of the Giants and Cas lads being a season long loan, still taking the P1 $$ you name 8 there, 67% of the mach day squad not signed to the club.
Until the RFL grow a pair and sort D/R out and letting some chairmen and clubs run (ruin) the game that is life as we know it, seems either join in or get left behind.

The RFL are the servants of the clubs. If the clubs don't vote to get rid of dual registration, it won't happen.