Correct. We've had a few slow starts this season and it is something that needs sorting out. Thinking back on yesterday the points difference as has been said makes the dropped point almost irrelevant. We can't afford many more slips though. The Commercial Inn, Sowerby Bridge.Ilkley Mary Jane 3.9% Mmm!

I just hope that the message from fans ref Qlt has got through to coaching staff. I don't go watch rugby to see forwards bashing into each other all day . I do go to see runners with the skill of Qlt . He scores try's . That's what any successful team needs.

Murrell off the pace on Sunday. Niggler Knowles, along with Sykes, and fantastic game management secured Dewsbury a point. A good kick up the backside for Fax before we blow Fev away by +40 next week

I'l settle for 37 again

Murrell off the pace on Sunday. Too busy with his Testimonial me thinks. Needs to step up or ship out.

Murrell is actively being targetted in defence, it's been happening for some time. Watch the first two tries from Sunday's game.

he as looked over weight since pre season and nothing as been done about it

His positive contribution on Sunday consisted of one kick basically. I've said for a couple of seasons his time was over but, as in Karl Harrison, when he's not on the pitch you realise how important a player he is to us. However all good things come to an end and there comes a time when the negatives out way the positives and we need to be looking for a replacement. Up The Fax!

D'ont understand the mentality at all.We both name him in 19s and as it happens he fails to get a bench spot for Cas so plays against Toronto.Left out of Cas squad next 2 weeks and we don't call him up,now back in Cas 19 for tomorrow.

It's called Dual Registration Ian, we do as we are told by those in charge at the great metropolis that is Castleford. By the way, I heard Green was going out on loan to Hull.

Agree ref murrell being targeted in defence because he is not as mobile as he once was. But we need to be aware of that and provide a counter measure . The issue of preseason training fitness does seem to have lingered on with a few players but if your captain is overweight it doesn't send the right message. One player that clearly is working very hard on his core strength is Sion Jones putting most of the team to shame.. It is however also clear that a few others need to lose a couple of pounds ie Fleming and Grix . So just guessing but that' is 3 of your main earners need to lose some weight.so when it comes to contract time I hope that the coaching staff stipulate club expectations. Anyone else feel that Grix is being played in slightly too narrow a channel to be as effective with his passing? Almost murrell and Grix cancelling out each other's ability to draw in players and release ours. Can't understand why we didn't use Butler offMurrell better last Sunday. There was a golden opportunity however the ball was kicked rather than the pass option. Whilst we were standing around waiting for Dewsbury we should have been lining Butler up on a 2 yd out crash ball . Anyone is going to struggle to stop him if the pass is on the money.

having deja vu here. Sure all this was said back in March before we went and brushed leigh and london aside with muzza starring in both those games. keep it up, might motivate him to kick ass in blackpool this weekend

At 32 neither Scott nor Simon are in the first flush of youth.

It is not getting any easier for either of them but Scott has never been the thinest of players and was always "chunky" in his HKR days.

I think they both have a number of years left in them but at some stage soon both will need to accept that they can't do 80, 70 or 60 minutes. Simon is already getting a rest most games.

Perhaps we should be playing one on one off and looking at finding another, slightly younger, on field leader. However, as ever budget will dictate what we can and can't afford.

It's again down to poor recruitment,surely this is why Adam Brook was brought in.

Grix now "overweight" Ive heard it all now.

The club have no fitness requirements.

Where do people come up with these things?