Dbvada. Ok, but why can we not go back to contested scrums? It made the game more interesting. As decent hookers could always strike one against the head. Although saying that has any one seen the union are now feeding into there own, not as garbage as league feeding second row, but the ball is ' not straight ' .
Maybe league could look at a different avenue and something akin to line outs or bounce ups like Aussie rules, it could be game changing !

The thing is - why should the team making an error retain possession ?

Did we not learn from the 1966 Challenge Cup Final ? Everybody thought Murphy's tictacs were shiite and we changed the rules. Now you want to go back to that.

You'll want a scrum after every tackle next. (Which, whilst not as quick as the ptb, wasn't as bad as you might think.)

Then Griff what is the point of a scrum down, get rid of them altogether and just have hand overs, because at present second row and loose are not even binding , some times even the front row don t bend their backs.
What would you do to restart the game?

Quote: Bubba "Well hi P&R works fine in football and in RU but the instability in employment in RL is a problem? '" Are you sure that it works well in Rugby Union? The 2nd League is very much like RL Championship with most clubs part time and unlikely ever to be able to afford to go go FT if they did end up in a Promotion scenario. Crowds are about the same as RL Championship, but the debts seemingly way bigger due to clubs needing more players. This myth that Union is a thriving game with money,is just that- a Myth. The RU Championship is a cause of concern for that sport. Even Yorkshire Carnegie, which is one of the big boys in the Championship, probably cant afford to play in the top League, as can be seen from how they exist since playing at Headingley and being helped out by the Rhinos a few times...This article is 12 months old but things have not changed. www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/38650116

Quote: Bubba "Well hi P&R works fine in football and in RU but the instability in employment in RL is a problem? '" Are you sure that it works well in Rugby Union? The 2nd League is very much like RL Championship with most clubs part time and unlikely ever to be able to afford to go go FT if they did end up in a Promotion scenario. Crowds are about the same as RL Championship, but the debts seemingly way bigger due to clubs needing more players. This myth that Union is a thriving game with money,is just that- a Myth. The RU Championship is a cause of concern for that sport. Even Yorkshire Carnegie, which is one of the big boys in the Championship, probably cant afford to play in the top League, as can be seen from how they exist since playing at Headingley and being helped out by the Rhinos a few times...This article is 12 months old but things have not changed. www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/38650116

The Union Scrum is something that is in danger. Whilst it might serve a purpose it is also a danger spot that has seen many Neck injuries. Sports have had to change things that were major parts of their game. League the Shoulder Charge has gone. Head collisions and brain damage are a topic that many sports fear including Football. The Union Scrum has changed alot to what it was even a couple of years ago. A number of games, even at International level, has seen uncontested Scrums. Doctors have directed aim at the Union Scrum, especially when youngsters are involved. It could well be that in 20 years time the Union and League Scrums will both be non contested.

The League Scrum is just a way of restarting the game and allows the backs to have some space. The fact that often that chance to play with more space is often wasted is another topic for discussion. We do see the odd push but its rare. I think its a good way to restart the game from a Situation and allows something different than just a Play the Ball restart.

Griff and LBC this is always going to be a point of contention between fans, when I was a lot younger and played the game, being a winger or centre I was not over endowed with weight and therefore glad that at times I would bot be crushed by the big bruisers every tackle and had the chance at times to use my speed to help turn defence into attack.
Every body has an opinion and it is a long time since this forum had a debate without some snide remarks . Thank you guys.

I'd have a scrum. They may not bind but there's more space out wide because seven players are stood in a ball at the scrum.

I don't want every play to start with a ptb. I said so earlier. The game would become too samey.

I've just read that Mr Wood has been on a fact finding trip to North America. Milking it to the very end. Rimmer next!

Aye.

I have no issue at all with Rugby League being played in Canada, the USA or wherever, the more the merrier.

However each country should develope the game within, from the ground up and let it find it's own level, how else can it really become part of their culture and become strong, if they are truly committed then they will succeed without the British RFL showboat approach.

It just seems that anyone can buy their way in to the present without having contributed one penny in money or time and effort in the past and it lasts as long as the money does.
All this fast track this and fast track that approach has proved is the it leads to more failures than successes.

As I have said before, the RFL have to the responsibilty first and formost to the British game and not to some other country.

Even in an advisary role the RFL are hardly the model examples to follow in how the game should be run responsibly.

You think Nigel should stop doing his job before he leaves ?

Should be in Toronto sorting a venue for 2 fixtures for his beloved nomads.

Reports in League Express that Wood got a £500k pay-off.

Utter joke,isn't he been promoted not binned anyway ?

Utterly speechless and astonished. What is our game coming to.

Sounds like the holiday pay due to him.