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| Quote: Hudd-Shay "I didn't 'moan when we got O'Brien on loan because I have nowt against the loan system if used correctly. For you to say loans and DR are no different shows your lack of knowledge and naievety towards the situation.
I'm not saying loan and DR are the same. What I am saying is if there are players made available to us by Salford that are better players than we have we should be picking them every week. We may not get the same players every week but we are guarenteed to get a player who is training full time and therefore have better fitness levels than any player in our squad.
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| Quote: Faxtastic123 "I'm not saying loan and DR are the same. What I am saying is if there are players made available to us by Salford that are better players than we have we should be picking them every week. We may not get the same players every week but we are guarenteed to get a player who is training full time and therefore have better fitness levels than any player in our squad.'" And to think you called us fev rhinos ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote: harry1 "looking forward to the three players returning to the team - enjoy watching Rob playing on dry pitches'" Try of the season so far from Rob and Brandon went well at interchange hooker vindicating the decision to play them over DR.Both have a game under belts now for busy easter,was a no brainer to play them.Lannon as sole DR totally ineffective again.
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| We missed Wilkinson yesterday who gives us more go forward than Kaye. I thought Worrincey was poor apart from his try he only had to bend is back to score one before that. Also Heaton was poor I prefer woodburn hall as he seems to pass and create more
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| Quote: hooligan27 "We missed Wilkinson yesterday who gives us more go forward than Kaye. I thought Worrincey was poor apart from his try he only had to bend is back to score one before that. Also Heaton was poor I prefer woodburn hall as he seems to pass and create more'"
Know you're a fan of Wilkinson(or a relation!)but Brandon was equally as good as him yesterday.
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| Quote: mr t hall "Know you're a fan of Wilkinson(or a relation!)but Brandon was equally as good as him yesterday.'"
For his first game back after such a long layoff, I thought he played very well
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| I watched a different game if Heaton was poor. As has been said I thought Moore was very good and if we can have Evalds and get Obrien in for Bradford then we are looking pretty solid.
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| Quote: faxfanman "For his first game back after such a long layoff, I thought he played very well'"
Not criticiseing Moore but what does kaye offer in attack ?
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "I watched a different game if Heaton was poor. As has been said I thought Moore was very good and if we can have Evalds and get Obrien in for Bradford then we are looking pretty solid.'"
Is Obrien fit ? Heaton threw a pass miles behind him which was lucky it did not result in a try did not think he offered much
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| Quote: hooligan27 "Is Obrien fit ? Heaton threw a pass miles behind him which was lucky it did not result in a try did not think he offered much'"
Other than that Im not sure he did anything wrong and created a try down that side. The big thing is his defence, our right side has been very poor all season with Murrell, Woodburn Hall, and Saltonstall conceding more trys by far than any other part of our defence. That happens less when Heaton is in the team.
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| Just shows how we see different things. I put Heaton in my top three. Top defence and always got us going forward. Ok he is not the complete centre but name one in the Championship. Could perhaps free his winger more but i would have him in my selection every week. We still need to work on a better end to sets near opponents line as we just struggle to force back to back sets or make openings. Every team seems to pass sharper than we do. Too many passes up around shoulders not bringing the runner onto the ball. Generally a steady days work though. Tougher times ahead.
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| Quote: cowfax "Just shows how we see different things. I put Heaton in my top three. Top defence and always got us going forward. Ok he is not the complete centre but name one in the Championship. Could perhaps free his winger more but i would have him in my selection every week. We still need to work on a better end to sets near opponents line as we just struggle to force back to back sets or make openings. Every team seems to pass sharper than we do. Too many passes up around shoulders not bringing the runner onto the ball. Generally a steady days work though. Tougher times ahead.'"
Sadly it starts with the hooker and as good as I think Ben Kaye is, he is not a patch on AOB and even in the couple of games he did play our half backs had so much more time on the ball because his passing is on the money.
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| I thought Brandon threw a few decent long passes, ones that Kaye cant, and he also shot out from dummy half a bit quicker than Kaye does, Ben does keep things tight though, his game management is solid if not spectacular. If we can get AOB back in the mix I think RM will have nice problem.
As for Ben Heaton, he looked leaner, and for that I say well done to him, he's at a stage in his career where he could go backwards down the leagues if he doesn't keep improving, he came with big praise and potential from Rhino, if we are honest that potential hasn't been fulfilled, but he has had his moments, like Ben Kaye though, not spectacular.
I hope they can both sharpen up a bit because the younger lads will soon push them into Champsionship basement clubs or the league below if they cant.
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| Quote: hooligan27 "Not criticiseing Moore but what does kaye offer in attack ?'"
And how many tries did he set up or have an involvement in on Sunday? By far the best part of his game is his defence, but many people don't seem to take this into consideration. You don't need to score too many when you're not conceding. I accept that others are faster in attack, but looking at the full game stats BK is always there about in the overall rankings. Remember that AOB was taken off against Rochdale as they were busting through him.
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| Quote: Pellon Boy "And how many tries did he set up or have an involvement in on Sunday? By far the best part of his game is his defence, but many people don't seem to take this into consideration. You don't need to score too many when you're not conceding. I accept that others are faster in attack, but looking at the full game stats BK is always there about in the overall rankings. Remember that AOB was taken off against Rochdale as they were busting through him.'"
Depends what you like to watch mate. If you like boring score lines of 18 12 or a team what attacks and wins by scoreing a lot of points. I prefer attacking fast hookers who lead us down the field and create space for the half backs.
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