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Quote: Faxlore "Penky was a great player but that has all been for nothing now. In the words of Cpt Mainwaring "Stupid Boy."And to do it twice.
To comment on what Encouraged has posted I have heard rumors too that another ex-Fax Prop now at Leigh has refused to give samples and the RFL have visited at his home and due to some aggression the police where called. Just rumors but quite a big one.'"


That was in the press last week.
The player involved has strenuously denied the use of drugs.
The police were called due to a misunderstanding and the player offered a sample whilst the police were in attendance.
Whether one was given is not disclosed.
I for one will give the player the benefit of doubt until something is proven.
Hopefully others will too.

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Quote: halifaxjohn "Penky was a great player but that has all been for nothing now. In the words of Cpt Mainwaring "Stupid Boy."And to do it twice.
To comment on what Encouraged has posted I have heard rumors too that another ex-Fax Prop now at Leigh has refused to give samples and the RFL have visited at his home and due to some aggression the police where called. Just rumors but quite a big one.'"


That was in the press last week.
The player involved has strenuously denied the use of drugs.
The police were called due to a misunderstanding and the player offered a sample whilst the police were in attendance.
Whether one was given is not disclosed.
I for one will give the player the benefit of doubt until something is proven.
Hopefully others will too.'"


The video that's doing the rounds doesn't help his cause.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Something got flagged somewhere along the line for a negative test to be re tested for something else. Its more likely to be a case of athletes been one step ahead of the testers. Lets wait and see though when the full story comes out.'"


I find it unusual that they keep the samples they have tested that have proved negative. I would have thought that once a negative result has been found that both sample A and sample B would be destroyed. Unless there is a reason that has not been given to keep these samples I cannot see why they are kept.

Is there anywhere where we can read up on the drug-testing procedure and rules?

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Quote: TheEnforcer273 "The video that's doing the rounds doesn't help his cause.'"

Show us the link for the video.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Call me a cynic but Leigh's performance on the whole seems to have gone a little bit south as the season got past the half way mark, their fitness is in question and there certainly seems to have been a drop off in the level 'violence' in their games. I cant be the only person who has noted that.'"


Perhaps the 'drop off' in violence was as a result of not playing 'Fax or 'Fev in their final games? icon_wink.gif

I would repeat what I've posted elsewhere, that the level of aggression employed by Leigh these past two seasons, has been no greater than we encountered during the previous four seasons' of Fev dominance. We got some right royal pastings, both physically and scorewise during our regular 3-4 games per season against them! icon_sad.gif

Our games against 'Fax have been more puzzling. We used to have some cracking, high scoring games with you. I can only assume that there have been so many players swapping sides that familiarity truly has bred contempt.

We now have, rightly or wrongly, a reputation amongst the 'knowing' media pundits, (even in the HKR and Salford games) of being indisciplined. Yet the penalty counts in both those games, have been in our favour, with the SL teams getting more players 'referred'. (e.g 4 Salford players and 1 Leigh)

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Quote: halifaxjohn "That was in the press last week.
The player involved has strenuously denied the use of drugs.
The police were called due to a misunderstanding and the player offered a sample whilst the police were in attendance.
Whether one was given is not disclosed.
I for one will give the player the benefit of doubt until something is proven.
Hopefully others will too.'"


Didn't need to - the drug tester had already taken the p***! icon_wink.gif

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Alan - explain the "evil" reference then.

Someone close to me told me this and said that something scientifically and medically was simply not right and as a person of medicine, I value his opinion over your conjecture.

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Quote: Encouraged "Alan - explain the "evil" reference then.

Someone close to me told me this and said that something scientifically and medically was simply not right and as a person of medicine, I value his opinion over your conjecture.'"


Can't comment on it, as it was his opinion and I didn't see the players close up as he did. Immediately after the final hooter, in games, they have seemed perfectly affable and charming - even with the opposition. Perhaps it's a substance that just lasts for 80 minutes? Or they are hypnotised and the final hooter snaps them out of their trance?

Mind you, we Leigh fans have often thought, during some of the team's sleepier performances this season, that they may have been on tranquilisers! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Alan "
We now have, rightly or wrongly, a reputation amongst the 'knowing' media pundits, (even in the HKR and Salford games) of being indisciplined. Yet the penalty counts in both those games, have been in our favour, with the SL teams getting more players 'referred'. (e.g 4 Salford players and 1 Leigh)'"


To draw a conclusion from that, you'd need to know what the penalties were for. Standing a couple of inches offside or smacking somebody, for instance.

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Quote: Tortured Soul "Is there anywhere where we can read up on the drug-testing procedure and rules?'"


rlAny Good?rl


Quote: Tortured Soul "Show us the link for the video.'"


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rlApologies for obscenities - Scroll Down to Aug 16thrl'"



Thanks, Sam does seem to be offering to take the test though.

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Quote: halifaxjohn "Sam does seem to be offering to take the test though.'"


I think his truculence and petulance top that.

The visage on the visiting tester is a picture.He seems to have seen it all before and he does stoicism and insouciance brilliantly in what may seem to be an attempt at intimidation from an individual bare-footed and bare-chested shouting a lot.

Strange the Halifax and Leigh links in the latest drugs controversy(ies).

The anti-doping people must be well sickened by rugby league personnel,following on from the attempted cover-up by individuals at Hull FC a few years back.

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From watching that video it looks on face value to contradict the Leigh statement that Sam called the police, looks to me like the UKAD guy was waiting for them to arrive, and also looks like Sam refused the test, hence why trying to be clever and asking the UKAD to do the test.

Looks to me like Sams own video has backfired and contradiced the statement to me, best mates with Penky could have been the reason for wanting to test.

The above is just my opinion based on what I see and isn't fact just speculation.

If they know they can be tested any time and have nothing to hide I do t see the problem at all.
They know the score as professional full time athletes, although I would have to stress that Leigh probably need a better conditioner based on that vid.

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In terms of Penky, is this the same sort of stuff that Kolo Toure was banned for?
Seem to remember him using his wife's cellulite cream or something, presume it's supposed to break down fat.

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Quote: Norman Bates "In terms of Penky, is this the same sort of stuff that Kolo Toure was banned for?
Seem to remember him using his wife's cellulite cream or something, presume it's supposed to break down fat.'"


We'll never know, will we ? icon_confused.gif

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