I respect your good self for being diplomatic and in the spirit of diplomacy I won't tell you where I view KH in our illustrious coaches roll of honour. He may or may not be above or below Steve Sims, Steve Linnane or Ross Strudwick

No my point was that who people would want in 2015 be it Harrison or anyone else. And it's kind of the same thing as mentioning players that we think we might of signed IMO

Martin Hall.

Good call.

Youngish bloke,new ideas,how about Danny Orr. To be fair Dunners would be great,CC also and what about Francis Cummins. Really anything would be better than the absolute dross we saw today but i feel change is not on the cards as there is no-one with the balls to put KH(and all of his backroom team) out of their misery,

Ian Millward

Will we be able to compete in 2015? I've heard Murrell , Tonka , Fieldhouse and Ambler could be going. In 2015 Bradford , London , Leigh and maybe Fev will be full time we can't beat top two now are we setting ourselves up for 5th next year?

Anyone wanting Harrison out is wasting their breath, the fans can see it, the players know it, but the people who matter will not get rid of him and his coaching team. Usually you have one or two people in a squad who do not particularly like the coach or his ways but it seems pretty widespread at Fax so maybe the people that matter need to start talking to the players and get their thoughts.

The tactics yesterday were old school Harrison, bringing Brown back in for such a massive game was a gamble that backfired as Fev knew from the off where they were going to get tries from and they scored 4 of the easiest tries you will see before we knew what had hit us. Again typical Harrison setting a team up with defence in mind going with Kaye instead of Holden and then wondering why we offer nothing in attack. By the time we ended up with something like what the starting line up should have looked like on the pitch we were left with a bench of Casey, Brown, Tonks, and Kaye and you knew the game had gone.

The other question I would ask is if the game meant as much to the players as it had been billed? They know now for the most part who will be here next season and who wont so for a lot of them other than collecting winning pay there wasnt really much at stake infact talking to them after the game it seemed a lot of them were almost oblivious to how big the game was citing the grand final as the game they want to play in.

I wouldn't be surprised if (because many of the contracts will have been signed ages ago) there is a massive bonus for winning/appearing in the Grand Final. This was OK a year ago but now? You get knack all as a club now. It's a dead rubber match that pays zilch. As a player though, with a massive win bonus clause in your contract this may be a big pay day. It's a wild theory

I'm still of the belief in the old fashioned current summary - we're just not good enough. We're probably on a par with Doncaster.

Maybe players are better off as PT with a decent job? I was shocked at your score after playing Fev the other week I thought they looked a beaten team and you would win easily.

Yes, I would rather have any of the above than Karl Harrison. That is how little confidence I have in him. Does anyone really think he is going to coach a part time team to an upset over one of 8 full time teams next year. Take away the bonus point his year and we are looking up at Dewsbury and Doncaster. At Batley he took them up to fifth/sixth place. At Halifax he has taken us down to fifth/sixth place.

Seriously maybe Charlie could throw in a Name for you ,Andy Gregory you may laugh , but this guy has done it all in Rugby , knows the inside out , has plenty of Success as a Coach at all levels and still watches the Game .

He is a very good friend of mine ,has started to watch Leigh on a regular basis and is very impressed , he came to the Fax v Leigh game , you could do far worse .Charlie knows .