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And ?

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Quote: marillion man "And ?'"


You suggested he knew little about RL s traditions and values as if he was from Mars, I was just pointing out the opposite, I would suggest it is those traditios and values that involve him in the sport in the 1 st place, albeit with Wigan

As regards this current discord, lets not forget the RFL s treatment of Halfax just 2 years ago, do people really believe they have changed?

I would suggest the Championship Clubs just stand aside, perhaps arrange a meeting with Mr Lenegan and his supporters to get their views on the future of the ' Whole Sport ' and the Championship clubs role within that before jumping in and publically castigating them

Ultimatley it is the big clubs that have the real power

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Quote: Starbug "You suggested he knew little about RL s traditions and values as if he was from Mars, I was just pointing out the opposite, I would suggest it is those traditios and values that involve him in the sport in the 1 st place, albeit with Wigan

As regards this current discord, lets not forget the RFL s treatment of Halfax just 2 years ago, do people really believe they have changed?

I would suggest the Championship Clubs just stand aside, perhaps arrange a meeting with Mr Lenegan and his supporters to get their views on the future of the ' Whole Sport ' and the Championship clubs role within that before jumping in and publically castigating them

Ultimatley it is the big clubs that have the real power'"


I just had a vision of a row of Championship Chairmen lined up in front of Chairman Mao sorry, Lenagan, all wringing their flat caps and tugging their forelocks or will they be required to fully prostrate themselves before this demigod?

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Quote: Starbug "You suggested he knew little about RL s traditions and values as if he was from Mars, I was just pointing out the opposite, I would suggest it is those traditios and values that involve him in the sport in the 1 st place, albeit with Wigan

As regards this current discord, lets not forget the RFL s treatment of Halfax just 2 years ago, do people really believe they have changed?

I would suggest the Championship Clubs just stand aside, perhaps arrange a meeting with Mr Lenegan and his supporters to get their views on the future of the ' Whole Sport ' and the Championship clubs role within that before jumping in and publically castigating them

Ultimatley it is the big clubs that have the real power'"




Well said Steve. People have short memories, our RFL=FAIL tee-shirts which a lot of your fans bought too at the Leigh game, was supposed to highlight the displeasure of our club towards the RFL. Now castigating a guy who wants to bring back P&R. The RFL as always will screw who they like whenever they like.

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Quote: Cassandra "Well said Steve. People have short memories, our RFL

He may accept the return of P&R but he doesn't want the Championship clubs to receive more money in order to make it viable.

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P&R cannot return if Championship clubs aren't funded adequately. Nor can relegated clubs take the shock of the cash loss.

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Quote: Fax Machine "He may accept the return of P&R but he doesn't want the Championship clubs to receive more money in order to make it viable.'"



Does anybody actually know what he/they want?

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Quote: Starbug "Does anybody actually kn
ow what he/they want?'"


No - everyone's just reeling from his Machievellian last minute strop - designed to cause maximum disruption just prior to the World Cup. The game of Rugby League can just line up behind his own selfish Wigan agenda whilst everyone seemingly and strangely dances to his tune. I'm sure they'll look after their feeder club though icon_wink.gif

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Quote: littlerich "No - everyone's just reeling from his Machievellian last minute strop - designed to cause maximum disruption just prior to the World Cup. The game of Rugby League can just line up behind his own selfish Wigan agenda whilst everyone seemingly and strangely dances to his tune. I'm sure they'll look after their feeder club though
But surely that would be a reasonable response to the RFL trying the same thing, all this should have been sorted months ago, in fact surely it is the SL clubs that should have ' OK d ' it before it was sold as a ' done deal ' to the Championship Clubs

Its a difficult one, who do we trust to make a success of the sport? , Nigel? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Certainly not Wigan that's for sure!!!! You may be OK with your club getting into bed with them but their influence in the game should not exceed the level it just has.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Quote: littlerich "Certainly not Wigan that's for sure!!!! You may be OK with your club getting into bed with them but their influence in the game should not exceed the level it just has.'"


Well said rich.
Lenaghan sounds like a self centred nasty piece of work.Him and Mcmanus (he's the one who said bradford must be kept in sl at all costs when they were in t street the first time) are like lindsey and caisley all over again.

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I do understand Wigans concerns and agree with some of them. The problem I have is the way they have done it. Surely after all these months and contact they could have said something in private if not in public about some of the concerns? I dont rate Nigel Wood or his mate Rimmer and they certainly have stuffed up. But thing is we have no leadership from the RFL or the Clubs and nobody seems to trust anybody which is a recipe to disaster

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Ive thought for quite a while now that the rfl cant govern because sle ltd wont let them.When ever they come up with new policies its sle ltd who say yes go ahead or no forget it and as we know from lenaghan recent behaviour they only say yes when it suit sle ltd and not the game as a whole.

I would'nt mind if the clubs in sle ltd were super dooper but most of them are not and thats one reason why what lenaghan has done is wrong

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Quote: Starbug "You suggested he knew little about RL s traditions and values as if he was from Mars, I was just pointing out the opposite, I would suggest it is those traditios and values that involve him in the sport in the 1 st place, albeit with Wigan

As regards this current discord, lets not forget the RFL s treatment of Halfax just 2 years ago, do people really believe they have changed?

I would suggest the Championship Clubs just stand aside, perhaps arrange a meeting with Mr Lenegan and his supporters to get their views on the future of the ' Whole Sport ' and the Championship clubs role within that before jumping in and publically castigating them

Ultimatley it is the big clubs that have the real power'"



The mere fact that he went to London as an administrator & not just a sell your soul washed up Aussie player on a cracking salary suggests he knows eff all about the game's traditions and values. Even with the 30 years of RFL handouts they've failed miserably in the smoke or Maidstone or Cystal Palace or Fulham or whever they've tried robbing the RL hierachy of their money to make RL a success.
Get back into your Wigan borough council run cave & do as your big brothers tell you to do like signing players with the promise of two days a week training with Wigan as part of the deal. Just you hope none of your new signings start playing well & Wigan don't get too many injuries or they'll be taking your stars off you to turn out for them. Your pies will never be as good as the pies' pies either.

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