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| Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "If Fax can compete and not lose vast amounts of money then we should go for it. But I also dont trust the SL clubs or the RFL and I wont be getting my hopes up any time soon things will change that much. Its OK saying SL 1 will have 12 teams but how many teams will SL 2 have and will that include teams who have links with Sl clubs? We would need a minimum of 8. so say 2 SL teams, Fax, Fev, Sheffield and Leigh then who? Toulouse maybe but then who and thats just for a 8 team league. Sorry I just cant see this happening under them ideas.'"
[sizeIF[/size there's a two tier $uperleague, it'll be two tens, four no-hopers to be "relegated" to $uperleague 2 (Cas, Widnes, Wakefield, Salford probably), Halifax, Sheffield, Leigh, Fev, Toulouse and ... who knows ? The RFL would no doubt like to see a Welsh team in there. Or a second London team. I'd like to see a Cumbrian team - but I don't think any of them are financially strong enough at the moment.
But it all depends on making the finance work. Like it or not, money's the driving factor.
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| Quote: griff1998 "No - exactly my point. Thank you.'"
What?
Your point seems to be stay with the current Franchising system which is quite frankly defranchising the public.
Come on what would you do then? Oh by the way you been a fan of RL for exactly how long?
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| Quote: griff1998 "Past experience shows that clubs have less money when they come back down. Relegation is often followed by ... relegation.'"
Examples?
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| Quote: faxlad66 "Examples?'"
Workington, Barrow.
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| Quote: Fax4Life "What?
Your point seems to be stay with the current Franchising system which is quite frankly defranchising the public.
Come on what would you do then? Oh by the way you been a fan of RL for exactly how long?'"
Just short of fifty years - what about you ?
If promotion and relegation is to be reintroduced, we need to get into a position where there isn't such a huge gap between the finances of the divisions. Until we do that, it won't work.
Your chairman has publicly said that there's no sugar daddy at Halifax. By contrast, Ken Davy chips about million into the Shuddersfield pot every year. Where's your million going to come from ?
Even in our division, one team is losing huge wedges every year for a modest return in silverware. What's their strategy ?
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| They'd still pull in bigger attendances than London.
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| away trips will take a while though.
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| If you read the article, they'd be based in a British city, so maybe not.
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| I heard that Mr Creosote is all over it as Perth have offered to keep him in ostrich burgers and wombat pie as in between meal snacks!
That should satisfy the subjective part of the licence criteria!
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| And they've offered to lend Hetherington a kangaroo for when his mrs is out, could be a goer!
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| Quote: griff1998 "Just short of fifty years - what about you ?
If promotion and relegation is to be reintroduced, we need to get into a position where there isn't such a huge gap between the finances of the divisions. Until we do that, it won't work.
Your chairman has publicly said that there's no sugar daddy at Halifax. By contrast, Ken Davy chips about million into the Shuddersfield pot every year. Where's your million going to come from ?
Even in our division, one team is losing huge wedges every year for a modest return in silverware. What's their strategy ?
Me, nearly fifty years actually.
I accept the finance part but you still offer no alternative to P&R other than keeping the existing Franchising system I assume which is you must admit doing the game a lot of harm and has split the game in two SL and the rest!
I think a SL with 12 in it and a 12 team part time Championship with more money from the RFL (like money from any TV deal for the Championship and a slice of the RFL sponsorship money) a bigger salary cap, about double what it is now,to allow the more ambitious clubs and those coming down from SL to be more ready if they get promoted with the relegated SL club allowed a slightly higher salary cap say 15 or 20% for 1 season only. The Championship needs to finish earlier too to allow the promoted club more time to sign players for SL.
Oh and I would reduce the amount a sugar daddy can invest in a club to say 33% max per season.
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| Quote: freddies wig "And they've offered to lend Hetherington a kangaroo for when his mrs is out, could be a goer!'"
I don't think she is......
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