I would say that Leigh are too short at 6s we have a decent 15 or 16 but with injuries we will struggle and are Fev that strong? I think not. Swinton very much dark horses

Halifax a steal IMO.

What have Dewsbury done to be 16-1? Have they signed Lockyer?

Batley a good E/W bet.

Top 6 will do me for Leigh.

IMO, I think thats a given; as brilliant as penky is, Fisher is something special as we saw with our own eyes. Coming back from SL will make him even better. Just my opinion... Batley are putting together a team worthy of respect.

Hunslet, York and Dewsbury may struggle but most of the others should provide some good clashes without having to travel too far, hopefully that'll mean a boost for most gates.

What makes you come to that conclusion? I'm not saying you're wrong - but just interested to see how you arrive at your conclusion?

I don't think Fev are as strong as last year. Thing is Fev were so far ahead of everyone they still the team to beat. Freer and Lockwood are particularly poor signings, yet Ropati and in particular Grimshaw are 2 quality signings.

Think the consistency over the last two seasons and defending champions has put us at the price we are

I dont think theres any real value backing us unless you put a lot of money on

Very good signing but I would rather have Penky anyday and believe he is the best player outside of SL.

I also feel Fev are a bit weaker this year. Losing Tonks, Divorty and Powell will hurt them. Freer and Lockwood are average from what I have seen and not as good as players that have left. Grimshaw is a quality player however but Fev are hardly short at 6,7 and 9 so could be stuck on the bench. Still Fev are my slight favourites

Fev are the favourites, but may, as we found out find it tough at the start of the season as Been the Champions puts a big target on your chest, every team you play raises their game

did you not see ropati for widnes last season? he was dreadfull worst defender i have seen in a long time he must of bin at fault for atleast 20 tries all season teams will spot him up big time smeaton is a far better right centre,fev will still be strong but looking at the fax squad they are going to be very tough up the middle this year and plenty of try scorers out wide

The amount of defenders that jammed out in that Widnes line last year I am not surprised fringe defenders were caught out!

I wonder why they didn't retain many of them for SL ?

I seem to recall you suggesting that losing Hardacre and Briggs would "Stuff us up"!
Interesting comments on this thread. We'll see how it pans out.

I can also remember you insisting that Hardacre would spend the entire season on loan at Fev and under no circumstances would he be recalled...... we all get things wrong from time to time

we certainly do!