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| What would be even better would be getting in touch with other supporters trusts of the other clubs, Seeing if the club ( halifax rlfc ) would let them in for free or say a fiver, Wearing their own club shirts to show some solidarity in the championships and that its not just bitter fax fans.
To me that statement shown on sky would have a far deeper impact on the RFL and others who are showing a interest.
How good to have 5 or six clubs with 10-15 of their fans in their colours with banners/shirts showing their disapproval.
I have put this in bold as i know if i saw it on t.v i would wonder what the hell are all those different club fans doing at that game !! Then perhaps if other clubs wanted to do the same then 10-15 people could follow the sky games until the end of the season.
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| Superb effort from the Trust BTW!!
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YOU CAN LEARN FROM THE PAST BUT NOT RELIVE IT.YOU CAN HOPE FOR THE FUTURE BUT CAN NEVER BE SURE THERE WILL BE ONE.: |
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| We have had various suggestions for T. shirts so anyone not liking the Hate one doesn`t have to buy the T.shirt. What do people think about
Franchising is for Mcdonalds not for Rugby League.
Also our protest is an orderly and disciplined one , we will not be happy at all with anything like running on the pitch or doing anything detrimental towards the club.
This is about asking questions of the RFL and requiring answers to those questions and campaining for the reintroduction of promotion and relegation.
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Loving the hypocrisy of some.: |
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| Franching is for the U.S. not for us
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| The effort and time that has gone in to this is extremely welcoming and I'm glad that some form of group is doing something within RL circles to get a point across.
The tag line however is horrific. 'Hate RFL' does sound very childish and I don't think Halifax fans, a Club who were not given a license, can get away with using that without seeming very bitter about life. Secondly 'Love P & R'. Not even every Halifax fans wants P & R, I didn't realise that was the protest. I thought it was more about transparicy and openness while not changing the rules so often. 'A form' of P & R is/may be the best option but from the tag-line it automatically seems as though we want to get rid of minimum requirements, financial stability etc and just have yearly P & R which I don't think everyone wants.
Whatever you decide though I'll still back it and get involved. Team effort and all that. ![Thumbs up icon_thumb.gif](images/smilies//icon_thumb.gif)
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Loving the hypocrisy of some.: |
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| I know it comes down to personal opinion but I really cannot understand why anyone would be against P&R. Its the most fair, sporting, accurate, you name it, way.
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| Something needs to be done - however I feel it needs the weight of all the championship clubs behind it. Hate RFL is never going to do that. A steady, measured capaign highlighting messers lewis and wood's weaknesses to allow people to arrive at an inevitable conclusion would work.
Hate RFL will firmly bolt the super league door and I fear, if not careful we could end up looking like the petulent child at school not allowed to play with his mates.
Well done to chris and linda for getting it out there and all your efforts - let's make sure we avoid embarassment and force our club's hand more with this tho. The RFL's deficienies are there for alll to see - let's use them!
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| Quote: Bubba "I know it comes down to personal opinion but I really cannot understand why anyone would be against P&R. Its the most fair, sporting, accurate, you name it, way.'"
Personally I don't think RL is strong enough to have 'simple' P&R which is simply the best going up because of the difference in money, player standard etc. However, that could be down to how the RFL run things and share the money I suppose so the notion of 'simple' P&R could still stand (ergo you are indeed correct), I just don't think that in the current RL climate you could just switch a button and let most teams from the Championship up without it ending in relegation the next year.
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| Quote: tommy "Personally I don't think RL is strong enough to have 'simple' P&R which is simply the best going up because of the difference in money, player standard etc. However, that could be down to how the RFL run things and share the money I suppose so the notion of 'simple' P&R could still stand (ergo you are indeed correct), I just don't think that in the current RL climate you could just switch a button and let most teams from the Championship up without it ending in relegation the next year.'"
Clubs do some to emerge stronger after a certain amount of yo-yoing though going by the examples of Castleford, Huddersfield and to a lesser extent Salford. I don't think there is very much between the bottom three/four clubs in Super League and the top few teams in the Championship.
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| Quote: johnny freeman fan club "We have had various suggestions for T. shirts so anyone not liking the Hate one doesn`t have to buy the T.shirt. What do people think about
Franchising is for Mcdonalds not for Rugby League.
Also our protest is an orderly and disciplined one , we will not be happy at all with anything like running on the pitch or doing anything detrimental towards the club.
This is about asking questions of the RFL and requiring answers to those questions and campaining for the reintroduction of promotion and relegation.'"
i personally think this is fantastic...a peaceful protest to try and get the point across to the rfl...well done
and the franchising is for McDonalds and nt for rugby league made me chuckle. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Can anyone anywhere tell me one good thing that the franchise system has achieved?
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YOU CAN LEARN FROM THE PAST BUT NOT RELIVE IT.YOU CAN HOPE FOR THE FUTURE BUT CAN NEVER BE SURE THERE WILL BE ONE.: |
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| Quote: tommy "Personally I don't think RL is strong enough to have 'simple' P&R which is simply the best going up because of the difference in money, player standard etc. However, that could be down to how the RFL run things and share the money I suppose so the notion of 'simple' P&R could still stand (ergo you are indeed correct), I just don't think that in the current RL climate you could just switch a button and let most teams from the Championship up without it ending in relegation the next year.'"
But that is because the Championship Clubs are geting a great deal less money.
3yrs ago if they had allowed Widnes up do you think they would have done worse than Crusaders even allowing for all the money they threw at them ?
So is it fair to change rules in order to keep the clubs in that they want and deliberatly keep clubs out who may do better than Crusaders , Paris, Gateshead and now Tolouse in for as long as they can till it goes pear shaped.
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| We are also not saying that everything in the press release is perfect they are just an expeession of how many fans feel, what we want to do is stimulate discussion because everyone is frightened to death of speaking out against the RFL so in that respect it`s worked.
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| Quote: hodgson15 "Can anyone anywhere tell me one good thing that the franchise system has achieved?'"
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| Quote: Bubba "I know it comes down to personal opinion but I really cannot understand why anyone would be against P&R. Its the most fair, sporting, accurate, you name it, way.'"
It is hard to work when you have a part time league team joining a full time league. Theres no time to bring players in as most have been snapped up and unless your team is very good and can make the step up like HKR did then its destined to be a failure.
I think there has to be a happy medim somewhere though.
+1 to not liking the tag line. Every time i read it i think, i dont actually hate RL, but it could be taken to mean that quite easily. Im also of the belief that simple P&R cant work in RL as it is at the moment. As has been said im more about the process been fair and transparent.
So i think its a good idea in principal i just think it needs a bit of tweaking.
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