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In regards to our chairmans rant, i for one understand where he is coming from. To be told you FIT ALL CRITERIA, earlier in the year and then lose to a team that has failed to meet what it guaranteed the last time round, stinks. I and many people are concerned at what is going on at rl head quarters and bribery is a strong word to use with out proof. I do not believe that the game is being run correctly and i think for the sake of rugby league surviving, we need a change at the top and an independant committe to make decisions. I think if lewis is nman enough (not a chance) he should go to the shay on saturday and explain their pathetic decision to the halifax faithful rather than hide in their offices like the idiots they are

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Quote: spanishbob "Yes but you miss the point. Wakefield youth structure was ALWAYS going to be better than ours, because under the current rules we cannot spend what you can spend, simply because you are given money from SKY.... The real point is that Wakefield have had years of spending these millions and are in no better position than they were 3 years ago, however we have grown in the last 3 years and done exactly what the RFL have asked of us. Our bid included assurances that, given the SKY money, we will introduce a youth structure akin to yours. They have accepted your bid based on the fact that you will do something in the future, why couldnt they accept ours based on that (more of a certainty, as the SKY cash would be available to us).

Shafted by those on high.'"


You'll do something in the future, we'll do something in the future. It might that there wasn't much in it, but there are two points to be made, which have been made already:
1. we are by no means a protected cow of the RFL. It must have been a good application. We only fail on Belle Vue, and the funding is there for a new ground, and work has started on the improvements to the current ground, and which will be in place for 2012. We are just waiting for the nod.
2. I'm not sure it was wise to go off on one like he did, badmouthing anyone within shouting distance. I doubt he did your club any favours.

I've nothing against Fax, and under our old regime, you might have beaten us. The RFL must have been impressed enough with what they had seen, because we have never thought that they would do anything to save us. My understanding is they refused us to loan the old regime money when the taxman called in the debt, even though they handed over more than double to keep the Crusaders afloat.

As someone said, maybe your ire is better directed towards Quins, who get no crowds, are looking to reinvent themselves again, and have only got location in their favour.

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Quote: dboy "I have no doubt at all that in the minus column, Wakefield had the ground and administration against them.

There is more to licencing than those 2 things though and Fax aren't good enough in the areas that Wakefield are strong, e.g. Grade A for youth and community.'"

Yeah and the other is the fantastic Marketing that Wakefield keep trumpeting ... which hasn't actually filled the worst ground in SL has it?
I am a Leeds fan and, at this moment, I seriously doubt I'll ever set foot in Belle Vue again, instead I'll go watch Halifax that week each year.
Not much of a protest but I know the admission fee will better spent at the Shay

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Quote: El Barbudo "Yeah and the other is the fantastic Marketing that Wakefield keep trumpeting ... which hasn't actually filled the worst ground in SL has it?
I am a Leeds fan and, at this moment, I seriously doubt I'll ever set foot in Belle Vue again, instead I'll go watch Halifax that week each year.
Not much of a protest but I know the admission fee will better spent at the Shay'"



No, not filled the ground, but attendances are up 16% (they are all real people too, not like the imaginary crowd at Fax, to meet the criteria).

Oh, how we'll miss you at Belle Vue!

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To be fair, I don't think the anger is directed to Wakefield, but the RFL.

I say good luck to Wakefield, this time luck has gone your way, just don't count on having such fortunate circumstances again in the future icon_wink.gif

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Quote: dboy "No, not filled the ground, but attendances are up 16% (they are all real people too, not like the imaginary crowd at Fax, to meet the criteria).'"

Percentages don't fulfil any criteria.
Also, 16% of not very much is still not very much.

Quote: dboy "Oh, how we'll miss you at Belle Vue!'"

Yes, not much of a protest (as I have already admitted) but, you know what, I won't have that grubby feeling of collusion.

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Quote: dboy "No, not filled the ground, but attendances are up 16% (they are all real people too, not like the imaginary crowd at Fax, to meet the criteria).

Oh, how we'll miss you at Belle Vue!'"


Remember the crowd inflation was a direct request by the RFL to give them a get-out in clause in case more than Crusaders went bust...

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Quote: El Barbudo "Percentages don't fulfil any criteria.
Also, 16% of not very much is still not very much.

Yes, not much of a protest (as I have already admitted) but, you know what, I won't have that grubby feeling of collusion.'"


Wakey don't have the worst crowds in SL do they?

At least 3 clubs are worse.

Fax fans are missing the point completely - it was never a choice between Wakey or Fax...Wakey were NOT the weakest application of the previous SL clubs. Word is 2 clubs at least had inferior applications - they should have been the target for Mr Steele.

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Quote: dboy "Wakey don't have the worst crowds in SL do they?

At least 3 clubs are worse.

Fax fans are missing the point completely - it was never a choice between Wakey or Fax...Wakey were NOT the weakest application of the previous SL clubs. Word is 2 clubs at least had inferior applications - they should have been the target for Mr Steele.'"



Name the 2?

Harlequins are never going to be kicked out, SKY demand a london club.
Crusaders, were pursuaded to fall on their sword

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If you think we are the only club, or indeed organisation, who are guilty of massaging crowd figures, you're either ignorant OR (sic) stupid. All clubs massage figures, including our very own wonderful governing body. Don't use that excuse to try and undermine what is a perfectly acceptable bid.

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Quote: dboy " Fax fans are missing the point completely - it was never a choice between Wakey or Fax...Wakey were NOT the weakest application of the previous SL clubs. Word is 2 clubs at least had inferior applications - they should have been the target for Mr Steele.'"


I assume from the knowledge you have that you are a member of the RFL involved in comparing the applications? You really should not be posting this information on a public forum.
Alternatively, you are not a member of the RFL and, as no details have even been released to the individual clubs yet, you are purely speculating.
So which is it?

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Quote: pinballwizzard "If you think we are the only club, or indeed organisation, who are guilty of massaging crowd figures, you're either ignorant and stupid.'"


Oh the irony! d040.gif

I am neither ignorant OR stupid.

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Quote: dboy "Oh the irony!
So it was just an act?

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "So it was just an act?'"



He did a good impression of someone who is either ignorant or stupid, or both...


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I heard that Wakefield printed their application with coloured ink rather than black, and they put in lots of pretty pictures. This appeals to those of low interlect = Wakefield got the franchise. d040.gif

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