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YOU CAN LEARN FROM THE PAST BUT NOT RELIVE IT.YOU CAN HOPE FOR THE FUTURE BUT CAN NEVER BE SURE THERE WILL BE ONE.: |
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| I did my own "risk assesment" on the place after witnessing the behaviour of the fans on the last few occasions that we have met . I also heard of the so called measures put in place to the previous visit to this and decided that in actual fact they were inadiquate so I did not travel.
I did not agree of the call for Fax fans to attend in the Courier on the day as anyone deciding last minute to travel after reading this (as we very nearly did)would have had little protection as they would with the coach.
I would also be asking the Featherstone Club what measures have they actually put in place to safeguard our fans.
I mean what is the point of segregated entrances if when they get inside they are allowed to just mix wherever they want and Fev fans are led out at the end of the game round the back of our visiting supporters just beggers belief.
Also if Featherstone really want to try to stamp it out they should stop them changing ends .Fax fans don`t change ends so we are used to it .
The Featherstone Club should also be made to pay for a police prescence in the ground till the problem is sorted.
Then when our and other clubs are satisfied that these measures are adequate should fans be told it is safe to travel. If the measures arn`t adequate then the fans should be told they travel at their own risk.
I have spoke to many genuine Fax fans who did go to the game who were apalled by what hapened .What sickens me is that there will be some Fax fans that attended to support their team and were attacked by Fev fans from behind and in trying to protect themselves started to fight back. Do I think these people should be banned ? no I don`t .
I`m not advocating violence in any way shape or form and anyone found to have been agressors from Fax or Fev should be banned for life but what are you supposed to do if your attacked stand there and let them beat you to death?
What annoys me is that FEV are ultimatly responsible for this because they simply have not taken adequate measures to safeguard not just our fans but other clubs and their own fans from these mindless thugs.
One of the posts from a Fev fan said not to boycott them as they would do the same to us and our club would lose out. No way I know plenty of Fax fans who did not come to their own ground because Fev was coming and the Fev fans sat next to us in the stand did not disapoint with their behaviour.
I feel saddened the Fev club have not grasped the nettle and sorted out the problem as Fev is a heartland club and have spent years geting the club back to where it is. So why have they allowed these mindless morons to permeate their club
why have they allowed it to come to this when they have had at least since the Grand Final last year to sort God only knows.
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| The problem Lynda is that the Fev board were probably just hoping they would get bored and go away , but I get the feeling they need to be a lot more active to get these people sorted , as I put , the stewards at Fev will know exactly who these people are , the stewards at Leigh knew who was the most likely ' Leythers ' to kick off at Hilton Park , I'm sure the same applies at Fax , every club has a few hot heads who given the right circumstances will be the ones to throw the first punch/kick
The problem is that they know who they are , but they also know the stewards as well , they conceivably have even followed the club together in the past
So the Fev board need to make it quite clear that the job includes identifying any troublemakers , not just being there , if the stewards are not willing to ' grass ' then get rid and bring in neutrals who will
The ' segregation ' was never going to make any difference what so ever , it was just ' papering over the cracks ' , not solving the problem
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| As Fax fans who live in Wakey and work less than 5 miles from P O Road we have often gone to Fev games when Fax have not had game on sunday.We have done so openly wearing Fax shirts,have enjoyed banter with many fans and sat with ex work colleagues and their family without any problems.Not this season as we have not felt it would be a good idea meaning Fev miss out on cash from supporters who just want a couple of beers and some banter and to watch a game of rugby.Till this gets sorted we wont be going to a Fev game again-their lose not ours
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| What upsets me is unfortunatly our club will be tarred with the same brush because some fans will be in trouble, all clubs would be better off just staying away like I wish our club had. Don`t return till they get their house in order `cos who they going to fight with if clubs stay away ? each other and good luck to them.
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| Quote: wereutherein1987? "RFF - what tangible actions are your club going to take to sort this issue?
There's no doubt senior members of Fev RLFC now recognise there's a serious issue just wonder what's going to get done about it?
Cos sweet fa has been done since Warrington by the looks of it, not even recognition that police presensce might have been a good idea Thursday night!'"
You know out of all the people that post on here you annoy me the most, Just after the grand final the then Rovers director Martin Overton posted on here about getting some kind of fans charter for the next time we played to try and nip in the bud any bad feeling, he did it with the best of intentions, he got slated for it and one of the worst was YOU. The bloke was genuinely trying his best and thats what this thread is about but again gets turned into a slagging match, so why dont we keep to the title and try and think of a way forward.
What about a fans tag match before the next game, or even all forum posters meet in a pub for a drink and a chat before the next game, there must be some people with good ideas out there, lets talk about them
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| In fact i would even organise our tag team and play myself and charge all the players and give the money to Dave Singers upkeep
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| Quote: gingdong "You know out of all the people that post on here you annoy me the most, Just after the grand final the then Rovers director Martin Overton posted on here about getting some kind of fans charter for the next time we played to try and nip in the bud any bad feeling, he did it with the best of intentions, he got slated for it and one of the worst was YOU. The bloke was genuinely trying his best and thats what this thread is about but again gets turned into a slagging match, so why dont we keep to the title and try and think of a way forward.
[sizeWhat about a fans tag match before the next game, or even all forum posters meet in a pub for a drink and a chat before the next game, there must be some people with good ideas out there, lets talk about them'" [/size
Agreed! That would be a start for both sets of fans. I hate the idea of not being able to watch my rugby and i know hundreds of people are likely to feel the same. Either way we have to move forward and i feel that positive dialogue between both sets of fans is very important right now. I, like many Fax fans have felt bitter and angry regarding the issues covered since Warrington and im sure that genuine Fev fans feel the same. We all know that both sets of fans have a few fools and its up to us right now to weed them out and build the bridges again.
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| Quote: faxlad66 "][/size]
Agreed! That would be a start for both sets of fans. I hate the idea of not being able to watch my rugby and i know hundreds of people are likely to feel the same. Either way we have to move forward and i feel that positive dialogue between both sets of fans is very important right now. I, like many Fax fans have felt bitter and angry regarding the issues covered since Warrington and im sure that genuine Fev fans feel the same. We all know that both sets of fans have a few fools and its up to us right now to weed them out and build the bridges again.'"
Things must change m8 starting now, a start would be stop bickering on here
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| Quote: gingdong "You know out of all the people that post on here you annoy me the most, Just after the grand final the then Rovers director Martin Overton posted on here about getting some kind of fans charter for the next time we played to try and nip in the bud any bad feeling, he did it with the best of intentions, he got slated for it and one of the worst was YOU. The bloke was genuinely trying his best and thats what this thread is about but again gets turned into a slagging match, so why dont we keep to the title and try and think of a way forward.
What about a fans tag match before the next game, or even all forum posters meet in a pub for a drink and a chat before the next game, there must be some people with good ideas out there, lets talk about them'"
m8 I'm not your problem... so wind your neck in.
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| Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "Believe it not, myself and the crew I stand with are placid, well behaved, rarely swear at games, I can enjoy a drink without being offensive and above all - me dad taught me manners!! No bad thing - cost nowt, getS you loads!!
It may not be a your experience of Fev which yes, since the decline of the industry has suffered social decline/deprivation more than most towns, but I am more representitive of fev than what you describe and as such I can't let a sweeping generalization like that go unchallenged.
Mindless louts tend to be much louder than our lot!'"
I feel sorry for you mate, honest, must be hard trying to keep sticking up for your own club when you have these idiots about.
Hopefully they will go away but probably not when we are in town, thats why I think it best we just don't go for a couple of years until it hopefully blows over.
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| Quote: johnny freeman fan club "What upsets me is unfortunatly our club will be tarred with the same brush because some fans will be in trouble, all clubs would be better off just staying away like I wish our club had. Don`t return till they get their house in order `cos who they going to fight with if clubs stay away ? each other and good luck to them.'"
Thats true on Look North what do we get first mentioned?
Fighting at the game inside and outside the ground, then it went on to say it was a great game and Fax won and are off to Blackpool.
Sad, as you say we are tarred now as well.
One thing that sticks in my throat is the lack of respect to Dave Singer, come on Fev fans if this was the other way around I would slam our fans for yet again having a go at opposing fans. That was why i was annoyed some of our lot reacted and fought back but if you get hit it is not easy to stay calm is it, honestly?
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| Featherstone statement: We have some mobile phone footage which we are reviewing to identify individuals, we also have a number of names of the people who started the trouble. These people are not true supporters of Featherstone Rovers and will therefore be banned.
Halifax statement: Those who instigated and participated in threatening, abusive and violent behaviour when the match was over should not have done so, regardless of the provocation.
Says it all....
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| Lets use the subject has a way forward. What do we do next about Fev v Fax games? If your response is don't go then what do we as a club need to do before you go again? What can we do to make amends? How can we bring our 2 great clubs together?
Apart from identifying the thugs which both clubs are working on where can we start to build bridges? A tag charity match has been mentioned, which sounds like a good idea (but we are not playing golden point extra time if it is a draw )
There are plenty of threads on here to have a tit fot tat blame game, lets use this one as a way forward.
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| A tag match has already been discussed prior to the game on Thursday and it WILL take place at somepoint.
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| Fev lose whatever the outcome....
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