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The difference between Calland and his predecessors is that Calland has gone that one step further, like it or not, and got us to the Grand Final, gradually building over the past couple of years or so. I don't know what some of you guys want, but remember we're a club with 2,000 fans with no sugar daddy yet you expect a Tony Smith type coach and it to be all hunky dory with never a bad patch to be had, and for us all to live happily ever after .... get real!

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Quote: Tony Fax "The difference between Calland and his predecessors is that Calland has gone that one step further, like it or not, and got us to the Grand Final, gradually building over the past couple of years or so. I don't know what some of you guys want, but remember we're a club with 2,000 fans with no sugar daddy yet you expect a Tony Smith type coach and it to be all hunky dory with never a bad patch to be had, and for us all to live happily ever after .... get real!'"


...................and also how quickly one can get out of the mire. Leigh were relegated last year - RELEGATED!
Now they're second in the table and are undefeated thus far in this league.

Pear shaped isn't the word right now but i know that we have the right people at Board level to sort this one out. We were never going to get into SL in 2012. Let's have a bit of calm in this crisis - there's four years to go yet before our real push for SL.

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Quote: littlerich "We were never going to get into SL in 2012'"


As long as we have this bent franchise system I'm quite happy to remain where we are. And the thinking about "competing" in SL nowadays is to not to get thrashed. Watch SL on SKY now and it's as though Eddie and Stevo are on the happy pills or summat, well OTT on praising "The Greatest Game", do you get that in soccer coverage ... errrmmm, no! Some bone crunching stuff over Easter but was it really THAT good? I think not!

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Quote: Tony Fax "As long as we have this bent franchise system I'm quite happy to remain where we are. And the thinking about "competing" in SL nowadays is to not to get thrashed. Watch SL on SKY now and it's as though Eddie and Stevo are on the happy pills or summat, well OTT on praising "The Greatest Game", do you get that in soccer coverage ... errrmmm, no! Some bone crunching stuff over Easter but was it really THAT good? I think not!'"


....................and nor would i want to have what Salford or Harlequins fans have right now. Go and have a look at the misery on those boards. It's similar to ours now but multiply that by 18 and that's how long their "current" misery has lasted. Not so super is it? IF we ever get back in it has to be with a competitive squad and a lot of cash - otherwise - don't bother.

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Yes we have to take a deep breath and wait for things to improve, it will some day.
I didn't here the booing last night, must have only been a few.
Tbh the fans last night were great, subdued but still there in number and applauded when the lads did something good, loyal bunch imo.

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The Fev fans around me were gobsmacked when 2,300 was announced. They reckoned it was a far bigger number than that.
I reckon we took a lot more last night than we did last year for the televised drum-fest, if that's any guideline.

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I think I stepped into the wrong forum here. Seems there's some sense been talked.

Well done TF, Littlerich and of course Colin. Restored my faith a bit.

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for all we know there might be something going on behind the scenes out of callands control. because of this i for one will not throw abuse his or halls way

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Quote: Officeboy "I think I stepped into the wrong forum here. Seems there's some sense been talked.

Well done TF, Littlerich and of course Colin. Restored my faith a bit.'"




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Quote: Fax4Life "Yes we have to take a deep breath and wait for things to improve, it will some day.
I didn't here the booing last night, must have only been a few.
Tbh the fans last night were great, subdued but still there in number and applauded when the lads did something good, loyal bunch imo.'"


But our fans are always subdued unless we are giving someone a thrashing- the onl time the players don't really need it. Surely its times of hardship when the players need us behind them most? We have about 10 fans who sing regularly. It seemed all the Leigh fans were singing last week ad it was summed up when they sang your suppose to be at home. Ok we didnt have much to sing about but their fans sing whatever.

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Castleford away last year, Toulouse away last year, the Grand Final, sang our hearts out just like the old Thrum Hall days, what was the difference? For any of the younger posters on here Thrum Hall was electric and we had a greater variety of songs, it was an immense atmosphere thats never been replicated at the Shay.
Figure it out yourself, cos i sure aint gonna sing how much i love them when they are waving defenders through and spilling the ball. But if they are giving it their all, Ill be there, if they need a lift ill be there, Ive seen nothing lately to inspire me though.

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Quote: Officeboy "I think I stepped into the wrong forum here. Seems there's some sense been talked.

Well done TF, Littlerich and of course Colin. Restored my faith a bit.'"


More rubbish from you. Just because you happen to agree with TF, Col and Little rich does not make it the right view. But then again, my view that Calland cant take the club further anymore, is not the right view. Its all a matter of opinion. Instead of just saying Calland should stay try and put forward your reasons like I and others have done why he should.

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Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "More rubbish from you. Just because you happen to agree with TF, Col and Little rich does not make it the right view. But then again, my view that Calland cant take the club further anymore, is not the right view. Its all a matter of opinion. Instead of just saying Calland should stay try and put forward your reasons like I and others have done why he should.'"

While i think Littlerich and Tony Fax's blind faith is something that all clubs need sometimes, they are clearly in a minority and are maybe too close to the fire to see whats burning, im sure inside they feel as annoyed as the rest of us, but maybe are known to people at the club and dont want to criticise for personal reasons, either way blind faith in something thats not working isn't maybe the answer, Man Utd and Alex Ferguson we are not, next round of SL licenses is slipping away from us, we need a better coach and have too many old blokes, and need more people down the Shay, I'm afraid to say thats not going to happen with Calland in charge. Any one who thinks it will is kidding themselves, but not the majority on here.

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Quote: Tony Fax "Watch SL on SKY now and it's as though Eddie and Stevo are on the happy pills or summat, well OTT on praising "The Greatest Game", do you get that in soccer coverage ... errrmmm, no! Some bone crunching stuff over Easter but was it really THAT good? I think not!'"


Erm....

I thought that the great TF had stopped watching SL, (wash my mouth out)? Plenty of pontificating about it in the close season and before then, with many a declamation that you would not be watching any SL games thereafter. eusa_liar.gif

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Quote: Tortured Soul "Erm....

I thought that the great TF had stopped watching SL, (wash my mouth out)? Plenty of pontificating about it in the close season and before then, with many a declamation that you would not be watching any SL games thereafter.
Errrrrr .... *cough* ..... it wuz "me mate" who told me about the SL matches, TS icon_wink.gif

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