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I also saw Doran kicking someone in the head when that fight broke out. Thank god Widnes beat us to his signature a few years ago. I would rather play with 12 than have him in our team.

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You must have great eyes to see him kicking anybody in the head on that video.

I can see the bit where he steams into the melee but how you can interpret that is beyond me.

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Shoddy Refereeing.

Looks like Haggerty took a psychopathic turn.

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I don't think anyone is condoning what Haggerty did. I didn't make the game but it's clear from the video that the intention was to take the player out at any cost and you are right that he should be punished.

FWIW... from two mates of mine who are normally quite realistic in their view of things they stated that the gameplan of Sheffield right from the very off was to try and ruffle our feathers and Shefflield were cautioned on a number of occasions for this. It's a tactic that a lot of teams seem to try and employ against us but we're big enough and ugly enough to match teams when they play like this.
The tackle on Thackray when he had his eye on the ball whilst taking a catch was similarly intended to hurt the player and the flying high shot on Allen that led to the fight was equally as despicable.
In some people's ideal world players would get up and dust themselves off after being battered by the opposition or ignore whilst watching their team mates take cheap shot after cheap shot, but Rugby is played teetering on the edge of aggression and it's no surprise that sometimes it boils over. That's why the sport is lenient to the odd bout of fisticuffs.... something in other sports that would draw universal condemnation and severe penalties.

Let's get real.. it was bad, it will be dealt with, Widnes will suffer as a result of Haggy's actions.. but we've all seen worse...






quite often at Leigh.

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Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "I also saw Doran kicking someone in the head when that fight broke out. Thank god Widnes beat us to his signature a few years ago. I would rather play with 12 than have him in our team.'"


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And Leigh fans were saying they would be devastated if Mick Nanyn ever moved to the LSV... and Barrow fans were mortified that McCormack was appointed as coach.
Funny how opinions change when someone joins the club and ceases to be a rival isn't it.

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Quote: In EnemyTerritory "Funny how opinions change when someone joins the club and ceases to be a rival isn't it.'"


You're right - they generally do, with one exception.

Toa will always be a tart - wherever he plays. icon_wink.gif

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i'd love to know what the referees excuse was for not sending haggerty off?? did he say he was watching the ball and didnt see it? if so what a joker, the incident was inline with him and the ball therefore he couldnt see the ball... bottled it like every other ref seems to do these days, i still cant believe the RFL would let a 19 year old ref! referees gain respect, what respect would he of had out there? clearly none

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Quote: babushi "i'd love to know what the referees excuse was for not sending haggerty off?? did he say he was watching the ball and didnt see it?
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Quite possibly..Seems you've answered your own question there.. it wasn't as if the player actually had the ball when Haggerty clocked him. The ref consulted with the touch judge, who presumably said Haggerty was late, but didn't know how bad the challenge was and so he put it on report. Seems sensible to me.

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Anyone watch the highlights underneath? How the linesman didn't see the sheffield player ground the ball is beyond me that is as shocking as Haggerty's attack!! d040.gif

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Cowardly attack, expect a lengthy one match ban.

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Quote: In EnemyTerritory "I don't think anyone is condoning what Haggerty did. I didn't make the game but it's clear from the video that the intention was to take the player out at any cost and you are right that he should be punished.

FWIW... from two mates of mine who are normally quite realistic in their view of things they stated that the gameplan of Sheffield right from the very off was to try and ruffle our feathers and Shefflield were cautioned on a number of occasions for this. It's a tactic that a lot of teams seem to try and employ against us but we're big enough and ugly enough to match teams when they play like this.
The tackle on Thackray when he had his eye on the ball whilst taking a catch was similarly intended to hurt the player and the flying high shot on Allen that led to the fight was equally as despicable.
In some people's ideal world players would get up and dust themselves off after being battered by the opposition or ignore whilst watching their team mates take cheap shot after cheap shot, but Rugby is played teetering on the edge of aggression and it's no surprise that sometimes it boils over. That's why the sport is lenient to the odd bout of fisticuffs.... something in other sports that would draw universal condemnation and severe penalties.

Let's get real.. it was bad, it will be dealt with, Widnes will suffer as a result of Haggy's actions.. but we've all seen worse...

think sheffield seem to use these tactics quite a lot the last few seasons just to get teams rattled.






quite often at Leigh.'"


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Quote: TheEnforcer273 "Don't let the Widnes mutants hear you saying this stuff!!!
They will call you unknowledgable fans and throw a strop!


One of the regular posters on the Widnes forum is even condoning this thugs behaviour and saying Barlow deserved it.'"


Why on earth would Widnes fans do this bellend?

All bar one have said that it was a bad hit and if it is as bad as it looks and he gets banned they all agree that would be right. Even the [ibar one[/i agrees it was bad but isn't bothered due to Sheffields alleged tactics.

Mebbes your just worried because we now have a pack that won't be shoved around anymore mate icon_exclaim.gif

Not that your pack shoved us around much last season though icon_wink.gif .

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Not that your pack shoved us around much last season though
Personally thought our pack got the better of yours in the first 3 games before you steam rollered us in the 4th game. We didnt get a chance to take revenge in the plyoffs though. icon_biggrin.gif

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Aaah but we'd already reached our objective by then though icon_razz.gif .

We had nothing else to play for icon_wink.gif .

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Quote: urbancarrot "Anyone watch the highlights underneath? How the linesman didn't see the sheffield player ground the ball is beyond me that is as shocking as Haggerty's attack!!
Defo a try if it had been a video ref decision. Also, good to see that both teams have been relegated to Championship 2 (15 seconds into the video)....












... before anyone responds, I do realise that it means match 2 of the season.

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