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| Quote: ShayFax "You can't seriously be saying I am to blame for all of this debarcle?
I was only messing too - not a chance that you're accountable whatsoever. In fact - better it came out now than further down the line with the financial stakes being even higher. I'm surprised no-one else picked up on it from the 16th April onwards.
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| If I remember correctly...
Ben Seru played for The Army in the Challenge Cup 2/3 years back in the 3rd Round against Oldham.
He was then signed by Oldham and he played in their 4th round tie against Wakefiled against Belle Vue.
How is this allowed?
I'll try and find some evidence.
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| Until the Hull fiasco, there weren't actually any written laws for punishment regarding ineligible players except a fine. That is why Hull couldn't be expelled.
I would expect the army aren't a member club therefore rule B4:12 would now apply in the future.
B4:12 A player who plays for a Non Member Club in the Cup cannot in the same Season play for
another Non Member Club in the Cup. A player who has played for a Non Member Club in the
Cup may play for a Member Club in a later round or rounds of the Cup provided that he is on
the Register of that Club at the time set out in B4:9 above.
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| Quote: ShayFax "If I remember correctly...
Ben Seru played for The Army in the Challenge Cup 2/3 years back in the 3rd Round against Oldham.
He was then signed by Oldham and he played in their 4th round tie against Wakefiled against Belle Vue.
How is this allowed?
I'll try and find some evidence.'"
There's a sub-rule about signing from non-member clubs (The Army). Basically, if they've played for a non-member club in a previous round they can then play for a member club in a later round.
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| rlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_league/7421980.stmrl
Surely worth a punt though?
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Champions: 1903, 1986
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[color=#FF0000:2i909pde]Winners: 2010 [/color:2i909pde]Finalists: 2009
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Challenge Cup[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1903, 1904, 1931, 1939, 1987 Finalists: 1921, 1941, 1942, 1949, 1954, 1956, 1988
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]John Player Special/Regal Trophy[/color:2i909pde]
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[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Premiership Trophy[/color:2i909pde]
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[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Yorkshire League[/color:2i909pde]
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[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Eastern Divisional Championship[/color:2i909pde]
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| The best argument that Halifax can take to the RFL is Rule B4B4
Under Championship rules Ostick is eligible to play for them in the League, so this badly worded rule above might actually be argued upon as it doesn't directly relate to Rule B4:10. Where Rule B4:9 which deals with the quarter finals and beyond, does stipulate that B4:10 must be adhered too. That's how I would argue the point.
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| Stop trying to wriggle out of it and take your punishment like the naughty schoolboys you are!
Seriously though, feel for the fans on this one. Hope there is a speedy resolution to all this and the club can get back on an even keel soon as. It is a horrendous oversight but not a unique one, as someone has already posted, it may be that it acts as a catalyst for some of the changes the fans have been asking for.
Good luck and see yous next week.
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23532.gif [color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Club Honours[/color:2i909pde]
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Championship[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1907, 1965 Finalists: 1953, 1954, 1956, 1966
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Division One[/color:2i909pde]
Champions: 1903, 1986
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Co-opearative Championship[/color:2i909pde]
[color=#FF0000:2i909pde]Winners: 2010 [/color:2i909pde]Finalists: 2009
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Challenge Cup[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1903, 1904, 1931, 1939, 1987 Finalists: 1921, 1941, 1942, 1949, 1954, 1956, 1988
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]John Player Special/Regal Trophy[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1972 Finalist: 1990
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]War Emergence League[/color:2i909pde]
Finalists: 1943, 1945
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Premiership Trophy[/color:2i909pde]
Finalists: 1986
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Second Division Premiership[/color:2i909pde]
Finalists: 1991
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Yorkshire Cup[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1909, 1945, 1955, 1956, 1964 Finalists: 1906, 1908, 1942, 1980
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Yorkshire League[/color:2i909pde]
Winners: 1909, 1921, 1950, 1953, 1954, 1956
[color=#0000FF:2i909pde]Eastern Divisional Championship[/color:2i909pde]
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| I don't see any hope of getting out of it. The rules are there in black and white. I think our challenge cup run is over and Swintons has just started again.
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| Rules are rules. The RFL would find it a hell of a lot easier to explain us being thrown out of the competition than allowing us to continue. One complaint from Swinton and I'ts impossible to come up with another conclusion
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| No matter what the decision the RFL make, this shows just how inept and clueless Martin Hall and Matt Calland are. Martin make the signings (probably scouted ostick during rochdale cup match against lenizign(spelling)) and Matt for picking him. It was not as if it was a first round match they may have forgotten about. Ostick himself should have said something or is he just as thick as the two in charge.
Heads MUST roll for this. This is not the time for excuses! Act swiftly and Rfl may look on the club in a better light Calland Hall
Maybe the two leaders forgot because they were Pi$$ed
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| Quote: RBear "Serious question.....
Do you think it would ever have come out if this thread hadn't been started?
Only joking mate you have done nothing wrong.
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| Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "ShayFax has got you thrown out of the cup and your coach suspended and may still involve a fine at some stage. Fans do have influence afterall
your email really phucked us!
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| Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "ShayFax has got you thrown out of the cup and your coach suspended and may still involve a fine at some stage. Fans do have influence afterall
pity championship fans cannot influence RFL more and do away with franchises.
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