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Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "I would class atleast once a month as regular. The Calderdale population is just over 200,000.
3% of 200,000

icon_lol.gif What a joke - were you spouting this nonsense 7 years ago when we marched on the Town Hall together to protest against private ownership?

Hypocrisy of the highest order.

If you deluded fools would take a break from using the words 'neanderthals' and 'luddites' at every possible opportunity (because it really really hurts when you say such nasty things) and actually look at the situation you would see how obvious it is that the only reason you backed this bid is because it was Tony Abbott.

Despite the obvious and real risk to your club should this deceitful spin king get his grubby mitts on The Shay you are blinded by your undying love for this man.

T Hall has talked some sense in voicing his concerns and is getting shot down. The disregard you have for your club is shocking.

As for the rent icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif keep kidding yourself that all is well and/or brushing it under the carpet. Keep telling yourselves that being £250k in the red is not of your concern. It goes hand-in-hand with your disregard for the club's future security anyway.

Fact is, you hate your club.

Whilst on the subject of rent, funny how the 'agreement' you had with the council was for Reactiv to add the rent arrears onto any purchase. Why would the rugby club's debts be included within Reactiv's negotiations - it's not HRLFC buying The Shay is it?????

Perhaps The Shay needs outside investment of some kind. All opportunities should be explored. What we most definitely should not do is sell for tuppence to a southern spin king who comes forward with a 'vision' and a mortgage.

Cloud Cuckoo Land is simply a short stop-off on the way to where you guys belong, such are your levels of naivity and delusion.

The FCHT fans have done a fantastic job of saving your club and will ALWAYS do what is best for The Shay. It's just a shame our cultist co-tenants couldn't care less about anything other than Abbott's balance sheet.

Remember kids:

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Quote: mr t hall "sorry,dont understand ?
Im just a concerned fan.Am i the only one to be worried that we havent
paid rent for 15 months and are 250k in debt.Does this not constitute
a mess ? wheres the money coming from to pay rent that we havent been able
to pay already--are our crowds going to double next year ?
the fact its still outstanding leaves us the subject of deserved redicule.'"

agree, pay the rent and then let those find something else to moan about.

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Quote: mr t hall "sorry,dont understand ?
Im just a concerned fan.Am i the only one to be worried that we havent
paid rent for 15 months and are 250k in debt.Does this not constitute
a mess ? wheres the money coming from to pay rent that we havent been able
to pay already--are our crowds going to double next year ?
the fact its still outstanding leaves us the subject of deserved redicule.'"


But you are just listening to the bile spewed out constantly by the FCHT maggots. By that I do not mean all FCHT fans but just the minority who post on Shaymen.net. Being a FCHT fan (as well as a Fax fan) you seem to give them more credence than the rest of us.

1. The accounts which keep being posted are up to November 2012, a year old.

2. Since then TA/Reactiv have invested £60,000 in December 2012 and a further £100,000 in July 2013.

3. The club , I believe, has since last year trimmed it's playing budget due to the current financial climate and the subsequent drop in attendances.

4. If you look at the total liabilities of the club and it's net worth for 2009 to 2012 you will see that the debt has actually gone down year by year, not by much I grant you, but I would be more concerned if it was increasing year on year.

5. I may be wrong but I think there may be more to the rent issue than meets the eye because, firstly, I can't see the club just not bothering to pay CMBC for such a long period of time and, secondly, I can't see CMBC letting them get away with it.

6. Yes, the club COULD now be further in the red. I doubt it myself but I concern myself more with the team's performance than the club's balance sheet which is down to the club's Directors and beyond my control.

I know that a number of FCHT fans would love to see Halifax RLFC go out of business but we've just celebrated our 140th Anniversary and I suspect we'll be around for a long time yet.

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Quote: Fax Machine "But you are just listening to the bile spewed out constantly by the FCHT maggots. By that I do not mean all FCHT fans but just the minority who post on Shaymen.net. Being a FCHT fan (as well as a Fax fan) you seem to give them more credence than the rest of us.

1. The accounts which keep being posted are up to November 2012, a year old.

2. Since then TA/Reactiv have invested £60,000 in December 2012 and a further £100,000 in July 2013.

3. The club , I believe, has since last year trimmed it's playing budget due to the current financial climate and the subsequent drop in attendances.

4. If you look at the total liabilities of the club and it's net worth for 2009 to 2012 you will see that the debt has actually gone down year by year, not by much I grant you, but I would be more concerned if it was increasing year on year.

5. I may be wrong but I think there may be more to the rent issue than meets the eye because, firstly, I can't see the club just not bothering to pay CMBC for such a long period of time and, secondly, I can't see CMBC letting them get away with it.

6. Yes, the club COULD now be further in the red. I doubt it myself but I concern myself more with the team's performance than the club's balance sheet which is down to the club's Directors and beyond my control.

I know that a number of FCHT fans would love to see Halifax RLFC go out of business but we've just celebrated our 140th Anniversary and I suspect we'll be around for a long time yet.'"

good post and i hope what you suspect turns out to be fact.We have agreed on fax matters several
times before but when it comes to loyalty mine is divided unlike most posters on both sites.I do always
post my personal feelings,not others bile,i accept im sometimes in a minority of myself.The flak that
each club receives from each other makes me smile and be angry in equal proportions.

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Quote: mr t hall "good post and i hope what you suspect turns out to be fact.We have agreed on fax matters several
times before but when it comes to loyalty mine is divided unlike most posters on both sites.I do always
post my personal feelings,not others bile,i accept im sometimes in a minority of myself.The flak that
each club receives from each other makes me smile and be angry in equal proportions.'"


I accept that it can't be easy being a supporter of both clubs and having to divide your loyalties. I myself have no interest in football whatsoever having been brought up on RL and attending a school which only played Rugby (unfortunately the other type icon_evil.gif )

Having said that I appreciate that it's each to his own and I always check FCHT's results as I like to see anything to do with Halifax succeed. I've always said that, had I been into football, I would have supported my local team and it always saddens me to see how many Halifax people support Leeds, Manchester etc. There are some in Halifax who support Bulls, Rhinos etc but not to the same extent as we do tend to be more colloquial in RL.

I suspect the divides between FCHT and Fax are now too wide to ever be bridged which is a shame as it is a hindrance to the success of both clubs.

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I requested under the Freedom of Info act the same rent question issue several weeks ago too. In the hope that I'd catch those Town numpties out.... Anyway it took a few weeks to get the necessary response but had it confirmed that we are in arrears on the rent and the amount was for period Sept 2012 - Oct 2013. Now it may be that we pay 12 months at a time but this needs putting to bed once and for all as its in the domain that we haven't paid our rent which is slightly worrying.....!

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I agree it does.

Not wanting to be out of order here and if I am I apologise in advance.

At the recent players gathering according to KH everyone was there.

The players, coaching staff and directors.

The history and tradition of the club was spoken about, the ambitions and what was expected of each of them present was made crystal clear, to represent the club in the highest possible way.

This talk about rent arrears now seems to becoming more than a financial issue, it is being used to heap reproach on the club by people from the outside and is causing concern to some inside.

It is an issue that could be bringing the integrity of the club into question.

Not a situation anyone connected with the club would want if it can be avoided.

Can someone from the club please put this to bed once and for all if at all possible.

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Quote: SuperGeoff "How much did the club put in?

If your rent as paid the council would be able to put that money into the Shay.'"


I am not sure how much was put in its around 15 years ago but John Burnett ex Halifax RLFC player was the driver behind it all.
You know what you have just done what you are saying Tony Abbott is doing and putting 'spin' on what I said, you and Bubba are just as guilty like why has Bubba not answered my reasonable question about how many fans are members of the Halifax Town Supporters Trust?

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Quote: Luddite "If you deluded fools would take a break from using the words 'neanderthals' and 'luddites' at every possible opportunity (because it really really hurts when you say such nasty things) and actually look at the situation you would see how obvious it is that the only reason you backed this bid is because it was Tony Abbott.
'"


Dont like the term "Luddite" and "Neanderthal" then dont come on a forum where you have NO interest in Fax. I dont go posting and winding up people on your forum and I havent seen a Fax fan do that. A couple of Fax fans use your forum but not to post drivel like you do. The sooner scumbags like you stop trying to be keyboard warriors and coming out with BS like we hate our club then maybe I would have more respect for you and your pubteam

Maybe you and your luddite friends are too stupid or thick to read and understand what many of us Fax fans post. I have never said TA should just take over the Shay. I have said certain conditions need to be met and that ensures the rugby club will never be forced to leave the shay against their will. I have said the Council is financially in a mess and needs to save money. Sooner or later The Shay will be sold. I dont agree with the Council cutting services to children and the elderly and keeping The Shay that is rarely used by the vast majority of the people in Calderdale. The Shay needs investment and needs redevloping. Its clear the Council doesnt have that money and cheap options are always done which often dont work- the drainage of the pitch for example. The Council can afford to run the shay- but any major problems and the problem gets worse. TA is no knight in shining armour and I have questions. But I am of the opinion that for The Shay to sort its problems out and be used far more than it is then its better under TA IF he meets certain conditions than under the council

Bubba and Halifax Town are people I wouldnt trust. Bubba doesnt have a great record and many Town fans rounded on him after the Trust fiasco. He also is somebody who is like a politician with the hypocrisy he comes out with. As for your own club, many of your fans are not happy with them and you never hear about whats going on according to some of your fans. On one hand you Luddites say The Council should run the Shay- then criticize the people running it. You were not so Council friendly when the games were getting postponed due to the state of the Pitch. I wouldnt trust the Council anymore than I do TA. And when the Council do sell the shay it could be to anybody. Somebody who has NO interest in either club or even the area

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Quote: The Lucky Black Cat "Dont like the term "Luddite" and "Neanderthal" then dont come on a forum where you have NO interest in Fax. I dont go posting and winding up people on your forum and I havent seen a Fax fan do that. A couple of Fax fans use your forum but not to post drivel like you do. The sooner scumbags like you stop trying to be keyboard warriors and coming out with BS like we hate our club then maybe I would have more respect for you and your pubteam

Maybe you and your luddite friends are too stupid or thick to read and understand what many of us Fax fans post. I have never said TA should just take over the Shay. I have said certain conditions need to be met and that ensures the rugby club will never be forced to leave the shay against their will. I have said the Council is financially in a mess and needs to save money. Sooner or later The Shay will be sold. I dont agree with the Council cutting services to children and the elderly and keeping The Shay that is rarely used by the vast majority of the people in Calderdale. The Shay needs investment and needs redevloping. Its clear the Council doesnt have that money and cheap options are always done which often dont work- the drainage of the pitch for example. The Council can afford to run the shay- but any major problems and the problem gets worse. TA is no knight in shining armour and I have questions. But I am of the opinion that for The Shay to sort its problems out and be used far more than it is then its better under TA IF he meets certain conditions than under the council

Bubba and Halifax Town are people I wouldnt trust. Bubba doesnt have a great record and many Town fans rounded on him after the Trust fiasco. He also is somebody who is like a politician with the hypocrisy he comes out with. As for your own club, many of your fans are not happy with them and you never hear about whats going on according to some of your fans. On one hand you Luddites say The Council should run the Shay- then criticize the people running it. You were not so Council friendly when the games were getting postponed due to the state of the Pitch. I wouldnt trust the Council anymore than I do TA. And when the Council do sell the shay it could be to anybody. Somebody who has NO interest in either club or even the area'"



What he said.

Bored with them now, I'm happy to wait and see.

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Check this story and the first comment by a moron calling himself More proof telling for you.

www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/f ... -1-6238850

This cretin first appeared as proofteller and because of his downright vitriolic attacks on Fax was banned, he came back as more proofteller, was banned and came back as more prooftelling was banned and has surfaced again in his latest guise.

This proves what we are up against, he constantly portrays his hatred of Fax and Mr Abbott.
Bearing in mind that all comments issued by these Luddites/Neanderthals have to go before Chairman bubber/suppergeoff and a panel of bubberites it shows the level of amoeba we are dealing with.
icon_biggrin.gifOH:


I must point out that I wish no disrespect to amoeba.

icon_biggrin.gifANCE:
Check this story and the first comment by a moron calling himself More proof telling for you.

www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/f ... -1-6238850

This cretin first appeared as proofteller and because of his downright vitriolic attacks on Fax was banned, he came back as more proofteller, was banned and came back as more prooftelling was banned and has surfaced again in his latest guise.

This proves what we are up against, he constantly portrays his hatred of Fax and Mr Abbott.
Bearing in mind that all comments issued by these Luddites/Neanderthals have to go before Chairman bubber/suppergeoff and a panel of bubberites it shows the level of amoeba we are dealing with.
icon_biggrin.gifOH:


I must point out that I wish no disrespect to amoeba.

icon_biggrin.gifANCE:


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Quote: halifaxjohn "Check this story and the first comment by a moron calling himself More proof telling for you.


Sorry but I can't see what you're getting at here. I know the guy's a total w****r but this particular post seems harmless enough. Unless you posted the wrong link. icon_confused.gif

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Quote: Fax Machine "Sorry but I can't see what you're getting at here. I know the guy's a total w****r but this particular post seems harmless enough. Unless you posted the wrong link.
Yep, wrong link, probably should have been


m.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/fc- ... -1-6235973
Quote: Fax Machine "Sorry but I can't see what you're getting at here. I know the guy's a total w****r but this particular post seems harmless enough. Unless you posted the wrong link.
Yep, wrong link, probably should have been


m.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/fc- ... -1-6235973


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Quote: spanishbob "What he said.

Bored with them now, I'm happy to wait and see.'"


Me too. I think it's time that a block was put on the trolls who only come on here to stir up trouble.

After all we all come on this forum primarily to discuss Halifax RLFC and "The Greatest Game" in general.

The problem is that on this forum you can register and start posting virtually straight away. On Shaymen.net you have to register and then go before Bubba's Star Chamber before you can post (although I really can't see why you'd want to)

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Quote: Fax Machine "Sorry but I can't see what you're getting at here. I know the guy's a total w****r but this particular post seems harmless enough. Unless you posted the wrong link.


Yes thank to you and spanish bob.
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/f ... -1-6235973

If you check out all the stories in the courier about Town and Fax you will see what I mean.
The guy actually works for Tesco's in King Cross he collects the trolleys. That is Fact.
If you check out his song it relates to Halifax Town, nothing to do with FC Halifax, it's like us singing about Bluesox.
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Quote: Fax Machine "Sorry but I can't see what you're getting at here. I know the guy's a total w****r but this particular post seems harmless enough. Unless you posted the wrong link.


Yes thank to you and spanish bob.
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/f ... -1-6235973

If you check out all the stories in the courier about Town and Fax you will see what I mean.
The guy actually works for Tesco's in King Cross he collects the trolleys. That is Fact.
If you check out his song it relates to Halifax Town, nothing to do with FC Halifax, it's like us singing about Bluesox.
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