Nigel was 50% right , Fax DID get 30 plus. .

A very poor result. Without being too dramatic that has ruined our hopes for the season.

A day when Sheffield lost and teams below us all won. One eye on that trapdoor

I am not normally one for 'trolling' so I hope you let me off with having a bit of a laugh at this one!

What on earth happened there!!

Weren't you 16 - 0 up and then later 28 - 10 up or are my phone updates lying to me?!?!

Wow!

FWIW I reckon every single team is capable of a nightmare game & every team capable of playing above their normal level ...

Just look at our implosion from a big lead at Odsal early season.

No disrespect to Swinton but they should not be putting nearly 40 points on any team away from home this season especially not one thats defence has been so good for the last year or so.

If I were to have had a guess at this before the game I would have said Fax by 30-40 points, at 16-0 I would have said maybe 50-60 points. Thats not a problem a fan saying that the problem is when the players start to wonder by how many they are going to win.

Pete, how wrong Di was.Swinton are a decent team. Charlie knows.

I would have thought that the boys saw a side of Marshall they haven't seen before. That took me back to Harrison's tenure,we looked liked a team of gym monkeys not rugby players and I'll leave it at that. Beaten by a team with talisman Josh Barlow who looked like the Midnight Cowboy.

Glad to see Charlie's been released back into the community........you Kant!

UTFAX

GFB, in pre season I remember you making a claim somewhere along the lines of you having the best pack in the division. In Tangata, Cahalane, Ambler and Moore you allegedly had 3 of the best 5 props in the league and with the likes of Manning and Fairbank you were going to continue your late season form and smash teams to pieces up the middle.

Which of those players would you say are letting you down currently? From reviews on here Manning is going great guns (although he didn't make any impact against Leigh) and Tangata seems to be having a decent year (who was superb against Leigh).

Just interested to here a revised review of your forward pack after you bigged them up constantly in the off season and yet they seem to have struggled so far even against supposed "lesser" opposition.

You was lucky at fev

Calahane's been poor this season IMO and Ambler is overrated can't pass or break tackles.As other posters have said it's back to drawing board now..TBF sometimes e happens just ask Wigan.

Swinton were decent Ian, but we were truly awful! Sportsman, shudds. Mallinsons Cascade. 4.0 % Mmm!

Pulitzer Prize nominations have just closed, William Hill have closed betting.

You are mistaken I said we had the best pack last year which imo we did. This year I fully expected Leigh to have the best pack which they do by a good ole country mile.

I wouldnt say any of the named are playing badly its just I do not think they are playing anywhere near what they are capable of. Tangata has been our best forward by some distance where as Cahalane has not had the same impact as last season but maybe he got away with it last season with the surprise element but I also think he is carrying a knock. He is clearly capable of better but thats not to say he is playing bad. Manning is quality and probably over a 5 year or so period in this league you would struggle to name maybe more than 1 or 2 players that have done better in his position. Ambler and Moore have both been playing well so its unfair to single any one forward out I just think its collectively they are probably all a little off the form they are capable and we are paying for that.

Lets face it the team in the form we finished last season would not have lost a single game this season, we have had chances to win every game this year and it probably shows how average we have been.