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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Purely hypothetical, but if I was to take ownership of a sports club tommorrow, I would implement a 90% of previous years income spend policy, this would force the club/business to operate more susstainably and also to market itself to improve its core customer base, which is the single biggest failing of so many sports clubs

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Problem is your customers get hacked off if you're not fighting for a top six spot. Customers are fickle and there are no guarantees that you'll get enough of them through the door in order to pay for a competitive product. In theory you could spend hardly anything and finish bottom of the pile every year.

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Quote: freddies wig "Was that for being polite at school?

Seriously, widnes showed the way for championship clubs and played the RFL at their silly game. Depending in Faisal's integrity, Fev are about to do the same. Will the RFL have the balls to boot someone out? My money's on no. Whatever happens, Fax need to step up now, the more there are strong teams in the championship the harder it is for the RFL to carry on as they are.


Good luck to the smoggies next season, give those bulls a beating from us!'"


Yes was a good boy. icon_lol.gif Joking aside the game is on a downward slope in how it is run to be honest.I am hoping Widnes come higher than bottom, and i expect bottom ,so anything higher would be a bonus.Teams like Salford cheated last year by spending beyond their money coming into the club,so i think a salary cap should be on attendances and build gradually.Wakefield have increased attendances by doing pretty well and luck with injuries.Goodluck Fax for the season. icon_thumb.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: OFFTHECUFF "Yes was a good boy.
What price were/are Wakefields season tickets ?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: littlerich "Problem is your customers get hacked off if you're not fighting for a top six spot. Customers are fickle and there are no guarantees that you'll get enough of them through the door in order to pay for a competitive product. In theory you could spend hardly anything and finish bottom of the pile every year.'"


So the other option is buy a big prop and a fast winger and icon_razz.gifRAY:

Community work, marketing on a much higher scale along with a few leaps of faith are what will grow a sports business, just hoping for a winning team is just slowly dying, the world has changed as it always will, change with it or die , that applies to most businesses

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Quote: Starbug "What price were/are Wakefields season tickets ?'"


Not sure mate and dont know if had many offers which can increase the average attendances.Widnes did not have many offers and sometimes can be good and bad.

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Quote: Brew "Think about it, this is a business man who brought a club at a rock bottom price, they were in the second tier, the door to the top was about to be slammed shut, and they needed rebuilding.

He got them for little, invested some, and now they're back in the top flight his shares in the club will be worth a lot more than what he paid for them (you'd think so anyway) so now he wants to get a return on his investment'"


Brew nobody will ever make money on a sports club, you put money in for the love of the club and don't expect to make anything back on it.

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Heaven knows why anyone uses the word investor /investment in the same breath as a Rgby League club , if they are very lucky at best they might scrape out with the money they put in .Most can`t do that as it just brings the Club down if they do so they have to leave it till the Club gets in a better position to pay them back which will never happen.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: johnny freeman fan club "Heaven knows why anyone uses the word investor /investment in the same breath as a Rgby League club , if they are very lucky at best they might scrape out with the money they put in .Most can`t do that as it just brings the Club down if they do so they have to leave it till the Club gets in a better position to pay them back which will never happen.'"


So what wording should be used?

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Quote: Starbug "So what wording should be used?'"


Probably "Freely donating" "Gifting" etc.

Or as money talks, with Rugby League it would be saying "Goodbye". icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Starbug "So what wording should be used?'"





FAISAL !!!!!!


He's the saviour. Apparently, he swirled his way into the Fev new year's eve party in some super-hero fancy dress outfit, THE SUN's Dave *nosey* Parker was simply sat on his own ( titter ye not ) doing the Ponte Carlo Times sudoko & the numbers game gained momentum.......

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Quote: faxcar "Probably "Freely donating" "Gifting" etc.

Or as money talks, with Rugby League it would be saying "Goodbye".

Maybe an Advancer as they do advance the money but it`s not expected to make a profit. eusa_eh.gif

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The word you're looking for is benefactor.

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Having a Benefactor is probably what all sports clubs do need, unfortunatly what then happens is the clubs/businesses become reliant on them and completely lazy, it isnt a positive way to operate, and RL in particular isnt suited to them due to the salary cap system we operate

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In Rugby League you can do anything if you've got one thing. That one special thing.

Five figure crowds.

Five figure crowds make you iconic. Five figure crowds means you can steal £500k from them. You can rack up massive debts and get bailed out. You can drag the the game of Rugbt League through the mud in the media for nine months. Then,when all seams dead and buried a knight in shining armour will ride in and save you. Because that knight sees potential in you. Despite the awful mess you've got yourself into, the knight sees the potential of a five figure crowd. And after all the mayhem, heartache and ridicule Jabba the Hutt will be there at the end to draw up a new "temporary" license for you.

There's just one strange exception so far. Salford. Why?????

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