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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Ok then 250K, how much is Directors loans? How is it split per Director? How much do we owe the taxman?
You seem to have all the answers so feel free to enlighten us.'"
No, but your club and their accounts have the answers surely. Why not request a copy of the accounts for yourselves. It's all there in black and white.
In fact, here's a free link to basic information on Duedil. You may need to create a free account to view ithttps://www.duedil.com/company/06190029/halifax-rlfc-trading-ltdrl
Then, why not seek answers from your club? Oh, sorry, I forgot how much you trust Abbott .
By the way, directors loans are not a good thing. I should imagine if your club is relying on significant director's loans to keep running and still posting a loss of £250k then there is clearly a reason to be concerned. Especially when you owe the council £60k on top of that. Worse if you owe the taxman anything as you ask.
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| Quote: Never_Shay_Die "Nah, pretty sure the dictionary doesn't say that.
But it seems like everything else you arnt going to bother to check.
How up to date was the FOI response that you keep mentioning? Its just that your quotes seem to be made on an up to date basis.
Should we take this as you just repeating what others have said without you really knowing the facts? If you really knew what you were talking about you would be able to give the directors loans figure pretty much straight away as it is on the accounts that were posted on here. How about the taxman, with your inside information I would have thought you would have at least an idea on this.
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| Quote: Never_Shay_Die "No, but your club and their accounts have the answers surely. Why not ask them?
By the way, directors loans are not a good thing. I should imagine if your club is relying on significant director's loans to keep running and still posting a loss of £250k then there is clearly a reason to be concerned. Especially if you owe the taxman anything on top of that and the £60k you owe to the council.
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Oh Halifax RLFC posted a loss of £250K? Thats a new one.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "How up to date was the FOI response that you keep mentioning? Its just that your quotes seem to be made on an up to date basis.
Should we take this as you just repeating what others have said without you really knowing the facts? If you really knew what you were talking about you would be able to give the directors loans figure pretty much straight away as it is on the accounts that were posted on here. How about the taxman, with your inside information I would have thought you would have at least an idea on this.'"
Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Oh Halifax RLFC posted a loss of £250K? Thats a new one..'"
The latest FOI request was submitted by one of your own fans. He has posted the results on here, once further back on this thread I think and once on the council statement thread. It was up to date as of October 2013. Of course, it could have been paid in the last few weeks. But your club hasn't said anything. Wouldn't you rather know?
I only know what's publicly available at the last accounts. Was rouding it up a little and depends how you define it. Your club had liabilities worth £243k but only £10k in cash and £13k in tangible assets.
I'm not interested in how the loss is made up, but owing over £300k including the rent arrears is a pretty big deal. If you're OK with running at a deficit while relying on directors loans and owing your landlord significant sums then fine. That's your call.
Hope it works out well for you
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| Quote: Never_Shay_Die "The latest FOI request was submitted by one of your own fans. He has posted the results on here, once further back on this thread I think and once on the council statement thread. It was up to date as of October 2013. Of course, it could have been paid in the last few weeks. But your club hasn't said anything. Wouldn't you rather know?
I only know what's publicly available at the last accounts. Was rouding it up a little and depends how you define it. Your club had liabilities worth £243k but only £10k in cash and £13k in tangible assets.
I'm not interested in how the loss is made up, but owing over £300k including the rent arrears is a pretty big deal. If you're OK with running at a deficit while relying on directors loans and owing your landlord significant sums then fine. That's your call.
Hope it works out well for you
It certainly will.
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| Quote: Never_Shay_Die "The latest FOI request was submitted by one of your own fans. He has posted the results on here, once further back on this thread I think and once on the council statement thread. It was up to date as of October 2013. Of course, it could have been paid in the last few weeks. But your club hasn't said anything. Wouldn't you rather know?
I only know what's publicly available at the last accounts. Was rouding it up a little and depends how you define it. Your club had liabilities worth £243k but only £10k in cash and £13k in tangible assets.
I'm not interested in how the loss is made up, but owing over £300k including the rent arrears is a pretty big deal. If you're OK with running at a deficit while relying on directors loans and owing your landlord significant sums then fine. That's your call.
Hope it works out well for you
Im fine with it but then again I do have some idea how businesses run.
I would be a lot more worried if we owed the tax man a significant amount of money to be honest.
Nest few weeks should be an interesting few in the Shay saga.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Im fine with it but then again I do have some idea how businesses run.
I would be a lot more worried if we owed the tax man a significant amount of money to be honest.
Nest few weeks should be an interesting few in the Shay saga.
Indeed. And he seems to ignore the fact than any overall debt is actually being reduced year on year with the club posting a small profit. But then again all he interested in is posting facts.
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| Quote: Never_Shay_Die "Nah, pretty sure the dictionary doesn't say that.
Also, my typo was the difference between £200k and £200m. Not £200 and £200k as your decimal point placement suggests. If you're going to pick up on a typo then it makes you look like a bit of a clown when you make one yourself.
Oh and look more insults!!! Yet the rugby fans are 'above' the type of neanderthal behaviour exhibited on the football forum.....
It's all hilariously hypocritical. Which just about sums up you lot in general to be honest.
As for the facts, you're free to obtain a copy of the clubs accounts yourselves. Plus the FOI response from the council is self explanatory.
Keep joking people. Just hope your ignorance and naivety doesn't come back to haunt you cultist hypocrites.
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| Christ! Can't SG and NSD just do one (or preferably two).
They really are getting boring now. Our BOD seem to be well on with preparing for the new season, have already launched the new shirt which carries record sponsorship and have signed some very promising players. We certainly don't look like a club "in crisis". Unlike FCHT fans I do not believe that we need constant access to the accounts. It is not our business and it is certainly none of FCHT's business. Why are they so interested? I'm not the slightest bit interested in their affairs. I go to the Shay to watch Rugby League not stare at a set of accounts. As to the outstanding rent, it has been announced that the club have reached agreement with CMBC on a scheduled repayment. That is between Halifax RLFC and THEIR LANDLORDS. They do not have to inform FCHT or it's cohorts.
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| Yes and strange though it may seem we have a Club shop to sell them out of ,it`s got to be donkeys yrs ago since we relied on trestle tables to sell our shirts on.
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| Quote: Never_Shay_Die "No, but your club and their accounts have the answers surely. Why not request a copy of the accounts for yourselves. It's all there in black and white.
In fact, here's a free link to basic information on Duedil. You may need to create a free account to view ithttps://www.duedil.com/company/06190029/halifax-rlfc-trading-ltdrl
Then, why not seek answers from your club? Oh, sorry, I forgot how much you trust Abbott .
By the way, directors loans are not a good thing. I should imagine if your club is relying on significant director's loans to keep running and still posting a loss of £250k then there is clearly a reason to be concerned. Especially when you owe the council £60k on top of that. Worse if you owe the taxman anything as you ask.
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| I was all set to leave this forum alone.
However despite your constant claims that you don't care about FCHT's business and that you are 'above' the mudslinging one of you decided to make a point about our attendances, which also included an outright lie that our break even figure has increased.
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| Quote: johnny freeman fan club "Yes and strange though it may seem we have a Club shop to sell them out of ,it`s got to be donkeys yrs ago since we relied on trestle tables to sell our shirts on.'"
It's hilarious isn't it, a trestle table in the car park, it's like a car boot sale, but then who on earth wants to buy a car boot let alone a AFC Halifax shirt.
As we have said before Malcolm, when running the shop offered to sell Towns products but that offer was refused.
They are so so bitter.
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| Quote: Never_Shay_Die "I was all set to leave this forum alone.
However despite your constant claims that you don't care about FCHT's business and that you are 'above' the mudslinging one of you decided to make a point about our attendances, which also included an outright lie that our break even figure has increased.'"
Clutching at at straws, straw man.
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| Quote: Never_Shay_Die "I was all set to leave this forum alone.
However despite your constant claims that you don't care about FCHT's business and that you are 'above' the mudslinging one of you decided to make a point about our attendances, which also included an outright lie that our break even figure has increased.'"
As you stated, crowds are an issue for many clubs in Football / Rugby League and no doubt a lot of other sports.
Also as you stated these figures are for league games only, the managment will have different allowances for other matches such as the cup competitions.
My question is.
If the break even figures are not being achieved in the league after say 11 games does that not mean that the figure for the rest of the campaign has in fact increased?
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